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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 05-22-2009, 01:14 PM
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Thx Fade for "behind the scene"!
Dave use always his ringflash in front of the subjects...this could be the key...a shadowless capture. But your Lightset is even good and i like the "twilight" feel and the colors! Your Postprocessing is also very good!
Did you use PWL directly in the image or a grey layer with dodge & burn or curve layers?
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Martin
I do Grey D&B Layers, and some curve adjustments as well. Much Fun.


More coming this weekend.
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Old 05-23-2009, 02:47 AM
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I do Grey D&B Layers, and some curve adjustments as well. Much Fun.


More coming this weekend.
Keep on going Fade...i´ll take a look (ore more ;-)) at your results!
Cheers
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Old 05-23-2009, 11:08 PM
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Shot my buddies doing funny things. I am editing a few more, but here is a sample.

(IMO, may have overdone the first one a tad, i'll probably lay alil lower on the editing for the next few)

http://www.fadewoodarts.com/naturalborn.png

http://www.fadewoodarts.com/smokesignals.png

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Old 05-25-2009, 02:44 AM
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Amazing Fade!
I like it too...can you talk about your lightset in the 2 Pictures?
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Old 05-25-2009, 03:05 AM
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Amazing Fade!
I like it too...can you talk about your lightset in the 2 Pictures?

Two travelites on each side of subject, one in front up high with softbox pointed down for fill, and ringlight flash on camera for fill as well.

Thanks!

Another day of shooting tomorrow.. well now today.

Calvin come shoot with me man...I want to learn some Batman style lighting haha.
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Old 05-25-2009, 05:22 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

You´re not far away fom the DH Style! The correct Lightset is the way to manipulate and get close to this i think. I´m testing various pictures (i use curves for d&b at this time) some are good and other are not so good to create. Did you use the LAB Modus (to have major control of the lights) or RGB?
It seems the DH pictures have a little bit more microcontrast but he say´s "i´m not using lucis art"...don´t know what he does.

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Old 05-25-2009, 07:57 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Dave Hill using Lucis Art, Dave Hill repeating his shoot if the lighting was not good enough, Dave Hill using D&B, something for contrast [he doesn't use High Pass, i use it and i feel it doesn't give something interesting really], I always saying that if you can get contrasty lighting which i am sure Dave is doing then it will be not difficult to manipulate to Dave Hill style or better, i tried on many different shots, some i got amazed and was same or closer if better to DH but the rest were just waste.
Also DH using blending modes, and i saw all his shots, not all are in same style anyway, even here many photos better than some of his photos, so if someone want to get his best style than some of his normal then he should be great in lighting with specific effect, then he can work on layers, D&B, blending, LA, ... to get or surpass DH.

In the future when i will have someone or some people to work with i will try to have better lighting then i will see if i can manipulate them to DH or similar styles.
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Old 05-25-2009, 12:35 PM
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"DH is using Lucis Art" - Are you sure about it?
Sure about 60-70%, isn't enough?
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Old 05-25-2009, 04:33 PM
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Sure about 60-70%, isn't enough?
@Tareq

Dave Hill does *not* 100% use lucisart and/or HDR for any of his images. As quoted in many of his interviews, if I have to I will post one of his interview's on here.

DH: "A lot of guys are looking for a quick fix, and if I put just an hour or two into my image, I'm pretty sure it would look like those on the forums...I definitely don't use any HDR or LucisArt.. whatever that stuff is.. and I've seen that stuff and it's kind of funny, and it's sad that people associate my name with that crap which is pretty bad and unfortunate."

It really seems like hes getting tired of Lucisart, IMO Lucisart is cool for some things, but many people are using it and saying it get's them the DH look, and they are really only getting 30% of it with horrible shadow detail lol.
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Old 05-25-2009, 05:54 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Yes this is true - many photographers in the world can do something that looks like DH. Dave says that he isn´t a Photoshop Guru. I think he is a Light Guru with a good eye and creativity to create Photostorys and this would be the Key to make this style.
Here is my result: before/after
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