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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 06-30-2010, 03:13 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I posting my attempt. How you think?
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Old 06-30-2010, 05:31 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

im trying the luminosity masks method but i have a question, what are we supposed to be doing with the shadows, i was making them darker like when i d and b but the dave hill style has details in the shadows, they are not just black, so do we make them darker or lighter lol?
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:25 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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I don't think we ALL do...
It's just amusing that people start these threads and want info on how to turn a natural light photo into a Dave Hill photo with Shadow Highlight & High Pass!
If you're going to complain about how people are trying to learn something, who don't know how to go about it, then teach them the right way.

Don't just sit there and say, "You're doing it wrong! You're doing it wrong! You're doing it wrong!"

You're obviously good at what you do, either show them how to do it, or just say nothing at all, because being condescending towards people who are doing the best they can with what they're familiar with just makes you look bad.
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Old 06-30-2010, 09:38 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

touchy touchy!
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Old 07-01-2010, 01:25 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

All I'm saying is either contribute constructively, or leave those of us trying to learn alone. But hey, if you still want to stand on the podium and lecture people about their mistakes while teaching absolutely nothing, go ahead.

We all start somewhere, and learning is a process which you may have forgotten.

If this makes me touchy, so be it. I'll take touchy over trolling any day.
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Old 07-01-2010, 10:49 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I'll wait till you're done preaching before I come to the podium.

Lighten up man!
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Old 07-02-2010, 01:33 PM
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I'll wait till you're done preaching before I come to the podium.

Lighten up man!
Well, I apologize, I don't want it to be that I'm trying to take frustrations out on you.....

Maybe I seemed a little extreme in my post, but well, it can be frustrating when trying to get somewhere or learn something and someone is saying, "Nope, not that way" instead of saying, "No, not that way, try this way."

There's good criticism, and bad criticism, you know?

Either way, sorry.

*steps down from the podium*
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Old 07-04-2010, 10:43 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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OK, I'll play along.

http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?i...829&size=large

P.S. I didn't once touch the Highlight / Shadows adjustment, or High Pass, or Unsharp Mask. Go Figure!
Kindly show the ORIGINAL photo so we could see the difference and hopefully learn more about the transition. Thanks.
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Old 07-05-2010, 06:35 PM
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http://homepage.mac.com/adriandavidp...ures/Bangg.jpg

http://homepage.mac.com/adriandavidp...res/Quarry.jpg

http://bighugelabs.com/onblack.php?i...829&size=large

I guess my big beef is with the Highlights & Shadows Adjustment. That combined with High Pass filtering drives me crazy. It is Lighting, Lighting, Lighting, Lighting, Lighting!!!!!!!!!!

I'm not perfect at it, but I've at least learned that it is SO much easier to do with a multi light setup. You have to have something to Dodge & Burn. Light & Shadows created by LIGHTING, gives you something to paint onto. Dave Hill, who incidentally lived right here in Nashville would Dodge & Burn for Hours the band photos he took for $100 a shoot. If you ever meet him ask him about his $100 a day gigs. Shadows play a big part in this that most people overlook. It is extremely difficult to create a "Dave Hill", "Jim Fiscus", "Joel Grimes", type look with a Natural light photo. Shadow Highlights adjustments just isn't going to get you there. Just go to Dave Hill's website and look at his personal work. No lights, he's just as Crappy as the rest of us
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Old 07-06-2010, 04:33 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

thanks Adrian Payne for posting the original, i think most people will see that 90% of the effect is in fact there before you take it into photoshop, you still done a great job with the dodge and burn, loving your stuff on flickr by the way!
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