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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 12-20-2010, 06:58 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Wow, that's pretty impressive, you really know your Ps.
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Old 12-20-2010, 09:20 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Are you asking about the lighting Violet?
Yeah. What is the psd workflow?
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Old 12-21-2010, 02:27 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Jason what did you do in Photoshop?
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Old 12-23-2010, 03:25 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I think the thing is its more about lighting than some lost skill in photoshop , if you look at him working he is using a huge ring flash , at least 2 other light sources .
Ive personally found when shooting on location with 2 off camera flashes and when ive got exposure spot on, and there depth in the photo in the first place it already has a sorta Dave hill effect
Example here http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellfast/5054969993/
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Old 12-23-2010, 09:17 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Thanks Ricardo. You get it. A lot of the techniques I used in post are combinations of those found on this site. These won't make a flat shot into a dynamic one by themselves. My shot looks like it does because I used 5 different focused light sources and two large modifiers.

My point is this entire thread seems to be people looking for a way to make any shot you like into a "Dave Hill" shot. If it's not lit right it's not going to happen. Go to Dave's site. His behind the scenes show all of his lighting for many of the shots in his portfolio. He lights the way he does because he knows what he needs.

If a client hands you a shot made with one big unfocused source, or shot with ambient light, don't tell them you can make it look anything like Dave Hill. This is not to say you can't make a gorgeous picture from something with less defined lighting, only that you can't create accurate dimension and texture when the subject is not shaped by the light.

All this being said, I think there are still some great techniques in this post and I would not discourage from continuing.

p.s. If we could avoid the bickering and condescension that would be great. I think this thread went off the tracks several times. This is all supposed to be fun my friends.
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Old 12-23-2010, 12:03 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

The problem with the thread came down to individuals posting their shots. "Look at me" without explaining how they did it or their steps. It turns into a gallery instead of an informative discussion.

Its about being clear in your steps, not offering vague steps. ie...i used curves and a hue sat layer. that doesn't show anything.
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Old 12-23-2010, 01:41 PM
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The problem with the thread came down to individuals posting their shots. "Look at me" without explaining how they did it or their steps. It turns into a gallery instead of an informative discussion.

Its about being clear in your steps, not offering vague steps. ie...i used curves and a hue sat layer. that doesn't show anything.
you are correct.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/hellfas...69993/sizes/l/

for that image. what was the post processing?
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Old 12-24-2010, 03:23 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

There are only a few that use this Technique to much success.
Unless you have the correct lighting you can not even begin to get the right effect.
What I noticed is most of them are good artists which means there is a lot of use with a Tablet. Jill Greenberg and Richard Wood Also use a similar Technique. I say if you use a Plug in you tend to Lose that quality or sharpness. So I know they do not use these pug ins, in fact they hate them.
I love this first picture or Richard Woods. http://www.richardwood.co.nz/index2.html
You can see the difference in Shadows and Highlights on all the pics.
Hopefully when I get all my lights I will be able to pull off something half as good as I can Draw well.
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

man i wish this thread would just burst into flames already. hell, ill even spring for the can of gasoline. This stupid look is about as new and fresh as a members only jacket or a shit brown 1982 k car. Why cant the taliban concentrate their efforts on wiping out this thread?
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