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12-18-2007, 11:31 AM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he Quote:
Originally Posted by pellepiano
[edit] I changed to another image. | I like that one even better than the other one. The shape and color of the shadows look great but they are at a different angle compared to the other shadows in the background. | 
12-18-2007, 01:08 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he A wide angle lens makes the shadows appear at different angles.If you look between the legs of the 5th person you see a shadow of a "lamppost" that is at a totally different angle than the big pole to the left ( sorry dont know the proper names =) ).
The shadows are not perfect, but done to resemble the original shadows. | 
12-18-2007, 01:40 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he Quote:
Originally Posted by pellepiano A wide angle lens makes the shadows appear at different angles.If you look between the legs of the 5th person you see a shadow of a "lamppost" that is at a totally different angle than the big pole to the left ( sorry dont know the proper names =) ).
The shadows are not perfect, but done to resemble the original shadows. | I did notice the different angles of the 3 shadows (the people, the large light pole and the one between the legs) and was confused. didn't realize that a wide angle lens would do that to shadows. I'm obviously not a photographer
reflections and shadow direction/shapes can be tricky to photoshop because you can do an accurate representation/recreation but it "looks weird" so the view will think, fake.....
anyway nice image. | 
12-18-2007, 05:11 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he Quote:
Originally Posted by superkoax can you tell us abit on how go trough making the shadows down the ground believable??? Just want know  the shadows IMO looks good...Are they real or fake?  | This does look nice, especially when knowing they were shot individually in a studio.
What would be great, is if you would share your lighting setup. Boxes on both sides but what size? Front light?
Nice work! I've spent a lot of time on your StudioBild site and really like your style. I will be moving to Prague in March so perhaps I can buy a day of your time and come pick your brain. PM me if this would be possible.
Warmest regards,
Damien | 
12-18-2007, 05:21 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he No boxes, just cheap shoot thru umbrellas. Same goes for front in ( most cases ). I often change lighting depending on background. | 
12-18-2007, 05:25 PM
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12-18-2007, 05:49 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he Quote:
Originally Posted by EOS4LIFE | looks good, definitely has a DH "look"... | 
12-19-2007, 04:30 AM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he EOS4Life: Looks very nice...can you share your work flow? Did you use LucisArt? | 
12-19-2007, 12:03 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he eos4life: indeed it look's very good. it would be nice if you could post the before and give us a run down on how you acheived it. thanks. | 
12-20-2007, 08:04 AM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he @Eos4life
Thats not a Dave Hill Look... thats pure Lucisartplaying.
@Pelle
Great work.... Respekt
Heres my part Wonda-Prince.jpg CAL_3435.jpg
All done with correct Light Set up and dodge and burn. You need hard lights from the side.
In post production you have to work at the shadows and the highlights.
Most people who can create the davehill look are Illustrator experts
sorry for my bad english
lg Calvin http://www.calvinhollywood.de
Last edited by Calvinhollywood; 12-20-2007 at 08:10 AM.
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12-20-2007, 09:27 AM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he Yeah,but not too far off,maybe if I went a little darker in the lighting. I did say "try". | 
12-20-2007, 01:46 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he Quote:
Originally Posted by marclile i wouldn't say that it isn't close... plus, I'm pretty sure that i heard someone in one of Dave's videos say "it's amazing what you can do with HDR and a little LucisArts". so i think he is using it, at least for some stuff. | seriously, you think a top photographer getting paid thousands a shoot does it by using a 200 dollar filter - if you read his blog or any of his posts its quite clear that he doesn't use either hdr or lucisart - i've seen that video and found it very very funny, the poor man is sick of having his efforts compared to a cheap filter. | 
12-20-2007, 03:38 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he ah who cares. 60% photography 40% graphic artistry. looks cool,but getting over played. | 
12-20-2007, 04:23 PM
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| | | Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he This is a old image from my flickr account.My hard drive with the original is in Shanghai,and I'm currently in the States visiting family.
I start with duplicating the layer using smart blur(for skin) on 2nd layer to my liking...not that much. on the 2nd layer I apply lucis whyeth #1 with a mix of 66. Once applied,I dial the opacity down to my liking. onto a layer mask on layer 2 and brush set at 20-40 opacity and soft edges I paint some of the natural skin tone back. Depending how that looks I duplicate the original layert again and smart blur again,and then layer mask that layer for a second time to adjust the skin some more.
A photographer that I used to assist for says that a mix of lotion and this bronzing sparkle mixed together, and applied all over the skin of her bikini shots works well with this style. She also uses around 4-6 strobes,focusing on really punching out crazy highlights from the side lighting. That shine off the skin does amazing things with this look. | 
12-24-2007, 12:30 AM
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