The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[longside1]

Hi Lance,

Unfortunately I still think your way off with your edit. The use of the Lucis Art filter has what I call a "zombie effect" it really messes with skin tones etc. IMHO if your serious about going for the Dave Hill Look I would ditch the Lucis Art filter. Unfortunately there is no quick filter method for getting the Dave Hill look, just lots of work with lights and then some in Photoshop.

Just have a look on Dave recent blog updates, he says that he has had a few fifteen hour days editing his shots, that's the level of effort required. Such a statement also dispels the rumours that Dave has some lacky editing all of his shots for him.

[mrkronk]

Do you guys think it might be safe to assume that lucis is an option with regard to some elements of the photo? For instance, if the lucas filter works well on one section (maybe a building, or a car thats in a certain color/tonal range) - maybe it can be applied to that one section of the photo, and then the parts that require fine tunin' (such as skin) is where all the D&B / local contrast / PWL ect is used?

I've never used it, but it looks like sometimes it's just terrible for skin, and really dark areas. But some of the really well lit / lots of detial areas of photos seem to have some success with the filter...

[skydog]

I came across this today...I haven't seen this method used before so I thought I'd pass it on. Still not Dave Hill..but interesting.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobis...7686705/page2/

[EternalTomorrow]

Originally Posted by skydog

I came across this today...I haven't seen this method used before so I thought I'd pass it on. Still not Dave Hill..but interesting.
http://www.flickr.com/groups/strobis...7686705/page2/

that's been referenced before, but it isn't dave's look.

[skydog]

Just tried the last method I posted. Could be cleaned up..not bad..not Dave Hill...but I can't complain about the price...no expensive lights or camera...not saying I don't want the lights or camera!

[skydog]

eternal...sorry bout that...thanks for pointing that out...

[namphoto]

yo sky, im guessing you used a surface blur? i dont know but when you do any sort of blurring i strongly recommend re adding the texture by adding noise, embossing it alittle and usually use a good blend layer. also when trying to soften the skin, dont forget to mask out the blurred areas that should be sharp like the hair or the clothing. my two cents.

[pAlaPupU]

hello everyone i'm new here. came across this thread and would like to share my two cents...

i believe they use lucis art, with some color saturation adjustments. it will need some layer masking and curve adjustments as well. and yes, flat lighting would work best.

long before i saw dave hill's, i researched about this effect when i first saw andrzej dragan's and jim fiscus' works.

i pretty much followed tweaked/varied the technique according to my own taste. if you guys have the time, check some images from my links below:

http://lexkabigting.multiply.com/pho.../14/Unleashed#
http://lexkabigting.multiply.com/photos/album/17/oomph

most of my images on this site were processed that filter too:

www.lexkabigting.com

[Lance13]

palapupu: nice work man. . mind sharing the workflow?

[charliebrown]

<a href="http://www.flickr.com/photos/charliebrownphotography/2121031093/" title="A Semester Abroad 2007 by Charlie Brown Photography, on Flickr"><img src="http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2237/2121031093_a60c4bf1e0_b.jpg" width="1024" height="685" alt="A Semester Abroad 2007" /></a>

no lucis art

no HDR

3 hot lights

and minimal Post Process

I think about as close as I am going to get

what do you guys think?

[charliebrown]

not sure if that last link worked!

here is another

http://www.flickr.com/photos/charlie...hy/2121031093/

view large for muchos detail

[vw88022]

Here's more or less my attempt at the style...Just to give it a shot

When I did the shots as a series, I changed the look a little.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/chriskn...hy/2197448993/

[mrbeagle]

Originally Posted by skydog

Just tried the last method I posted. Could be cleaned up..not bad..not Dave Hill...but I can't complain about the price...no expensive lights or camera...not saying I don't want the lights or camera!

just looks like smudged skin

[mrbeagle]

Originally Posted by pAlaPupU

hello everyone i'm new here. came across this thread and would like to share my two cents...

i believe they use lucis art, with some color saturation adjustments. it will need some layer masking and curve adjustments as well. and yes, flat lighting would work best.

long before i saw dave hill's, i researched about this effect when i first saw andrzej dragan's and jim fiscus' works.

i pretty much followed tweaked/varied the technique according to my own taste. if you guys have the time, check some images from my links below:

http://lexkabigting.multiply.com/pho.../14/Unleashed#
http://lexkabigting.multiply.com/photos/album/17/oomph

most of my images on this site were processed that filter too:

www.lexkabigting.com

VERY COOL shots on the 2nd link, u gonna share some tips or just gloat in the mastery

[charliebrown]

http://flickr.com/photos/charliebrow...hy/2272381643/

as close as I can get

watcha think?