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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 01-13-2008, 01:20 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I have to agree with mrbeagle. Those examples aren't anything like Dave Hill. Just really bad HDR along with some really bad Lucis or other LCE. The halo'ing is terrible and the effect is completely OTT for Dave Hill.

zogdart and namphoto are much closer to the money for this look. Cheers for the lighting setup.

I'm not even close yet, but here is my example. Note no background as I'm waiting till Summer. I've gotten a whole load of Alien Bees lighting shipped to the UK to try it out.

Here

That is similar lighting to Greenberg, with some PWL and LCE.

Oh... and just to prove that Dave hill isn't a simple HDR portrait, these are HDR portraits. Completely different to DH.

Here...
...and here

Notice... no halo'ing. Halo'ing is bad in any HDR shot and not liked by many.

Edit: Oh... and you can do HDR with moving objects. Honest. And the newer HDR programs will take note of this and correct it.

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Old 01-13-2008, 01:49 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

here's my second take on it.

Works a lot better when you are outside!
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Well done Zogdart
I lll guess the key was the lightning*g*

lg Calvin
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:52 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

What is PWL and LCE?
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Old 01-13-2008, 02:58 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Paint with light, Local contrast enhancement.

We need a glossary FAQ or something. Haha.
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Old 01-13-2008, 04:25 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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because we just talked about how lighting is crucial and i need a camera to show those lights?
Ok one more time.......why do you need a camera to show "stuff you've done"? D-O-N-E, past tense.

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Old 01-13-2008, 04:41 PM
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@George
Thats "off topic". Maybe he wants to shoot special for this kind of style.
And he dont like to work on old pictures.

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Old 01-13-2008, 05:11 PM
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@George
Thats "off topic". Maybe he wants to shoot special for this kind of style.
And he dont like to work on old pictures.

lg Calvin
Nothing like speculation.........

I simply asked him why he needed a camera to show stuff he has done in the past, why is that off topic? If he's done this kind of work in the past (which is on topic), then I ask again, why do you need a camera to show the work if it has already been done? If it's because examples are not available and need to be re-done then that is for him to explain, not you.
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Old 01-13-2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

@ Calvin.

I did put a little lucisart to it. Here is the comaparasion (no photoshop).

He might use it, but at small increments, but it's defenetly not only the lighting.

If you look at all the skin tone on his web site you will notice that they are off (more noticable with white people) but still nice. he doesn't seem to have the realistique skin tone or the bronze like jill greenberg.
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Nothing like speculation.........

I simply asked him why he needed a camera to show stuff he has done in the past, why is that off topic? If he's done this kind of work in the past (which is on topic), then I ask again, why do you need a camera to show the work if it has already been done? If it's because examples are not available and need to be re-done then that is for him to explain, not you.
We understood what he meant, you didn't...leave it alone!
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