The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[HelloPiccadilly]

omg...(i'm about why i'm here instead of going sleep)
okey, I've found what i want to do with people (clothes, faces, skin)...but it doesn't work with background (interior, nature, furniture..etc...)
any help pls? (just like a present for New Year's Day)

[Cyberek]

HDR? Then composite .

[HelloPiccadilly]

For pictures with 1 shot...)

[Cyberek]

Still You could use CameraRaw or something simmilar, then with 3 pictures (0, +1 -1 on exposure) create hdr, and make background like You want. Then create another exposure for main subject (person for example) and work on it the way You want.
I think this should do the job .

[dennisonb]

Well, There you go! Thanks Edward, and I hope with that video- this thread is finished!

www.dennisonbertram.com
fashion photographer prague

[HelloPiccadilly]

there is no one english word in this video ((

[sam_bond]

Here's another attempt. No lucis art, not much D+B, bit of high pass. Most of it is in the lighting although this isnt 100% dave hill lighting, i thought it looked somewhat similar. TBH im getting a bit bored of this dave hill crap!

http://bandphoto.co.uk/download/clark_guitarhero.jpg

[Ich.Mario]

ah c'mon, not again some bad pictures 8-)

[longside1]

I totally agree, no offence but this is meant to be a Dave Hill thread. Whist IMHO this thread should have dies ages ago, but if people are intent on keeping it alive at least post images which at least look like the work of DH, alongg with a workflow explanation.

That last image is absolutely no where near Dave Hill!

[Mtmm]

Has Dave gone totally offline? Blog is dead, no new updates on portfolio? What is this?

[snook305]

Who the F^ck cares...:+}
Get a life...
Snook

[Mtmm]

Oh, our baby is still angry. Snif.

[Tareq]

My turn

http://img239.imageshack.us/img239/4388/a05322td5.jpg

[Ich.Mario]

no.

just read the 49 pages and you know why

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by Ich.Mario

no.

just read the 49 pages and you know why

I read it and still i don't know why

[leuallen]

I've read all 49 pages and don't care!

Larry

[longside1]

Tareq,

Can you honestly, whilst keeping a straight face, say that your photo looks anything like the work of Dave Hill? Honestly...no lies, not even little ones!!?? ;-)

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by longside1

Tareq,

Can you honestly, whilst keeping a straight face, say that your photo looks anything like the work of Dave Hill? Honestly...no lies, not even little ones!!?? ;-)

I am sorry, but i didn't understand anything from you, sorry

[longside1]

That's ok!

I don't think your photo looks anything like the work of Dave Hill!

[Tareq]

And in fact i lowered [or desaturated a bit] the shot, because with colored saturated people will not like it maybe.

http://img99.imageshack.us/img99/8259/a0532hw5.jpg

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by longside1

That's ok!

I don't think your photo looks anything like the work of Dave Hill!

To be honest, i never do this to be a like Dave Hill work, but i just posted to see how far i am from his work, and the funny thing is that i just said: "my turn" and didn't say: here is my "Dave Hill" attempt.

[longside1]

To get the Dave hill look to put it quite simply you need to increase the dynamic range of the shot.

This is acheived as follows:

1) HDR a background
2) seperately light your subject with wrap around lighting, the object being to create a wide range of highlights and shadows, ranging from specular highlights to very dark shadows.
3) Then, use extensive dodge and burning to lighten the lights and darken the darks. Remember that a standard RAW file has about 4 stops of exposure, all of which can be exploited by careful Dodge and Burning. Unfortunately extensive D n B takes a long time. If you want the look you need to put in the time.
4) Finish the image of the person off with selective sharpening. Sharpening should be aimed at increasing midtone contrast. Don't overdo it as otherwise you will end up with that dreaded halo. Lucis, used sparingly can bring about this midtone contrast, but remember kids, mask out the skin tones otherwide you end up with a zombie.
5) Finally, cut out your individual and composite it into your HDR background, again not easy and takes great skill.
6) Voilla, Dave Hill.

Piece of piss.

http://www.imagespike.wordpress.com

[longside1]

Originally Posted by Tareq

To be honest, i never do this to be a like Dave Hill work, but i just posted to see how far i am from his work, and the funny thing is that i just said: "my turn" and didn't say: here is my "Dave Hill" attempt.

The purpose of this very long and now boring thread is to try and recreate and understand how Dave Hill acheives his look.

If you were to prehaps share your workflow and actually participate instead of just showing off your work you might not get such a curt response.

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by longside1

The purpose of this very long and now boring thread is to try and recreate and understand how Dave Hill acheives his look.

If you were to prehaps share your workflow and actually participate instead of just showing off your work you might not get such a curt response.

I would like to know, within these 49 pages, is there anyone got closer to Dave Hill? anyone got same as his style? or let's say the most important, did anyone beat his technique and get something better?

I saw one website of someone, to my eyes his works is much better than Dave Hill, i even shouldn't believe why it is called "Dave Hill" look or style.

[longside1]

Originally Posted by Tareq

I would like to know, within these 49 pages, is there anyone got closer to Dave Hill? anyone got same as his style? or let's say the most important, did anyone beat his technique and get something better?

I saw one website of someone, to my eyes his works is much better than Dave Hill, i even shouldn't believe why it is called "Dave Hill" look or style.

Mtmm has got kind of close, but IMHO it's not quite the Dave Hill look and certainly not better (I'm sure Mtmm will agree with this also). You may want to ask him how he acheives his look, but I know he doesn't like sharing the knowledge which is a shame, but I suspect it's pretty close to what I described earlier!

To be quite honest, due to all the attention Dave Hill has received, whilst I think it is a great technique, the look is now somewhat dated.

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by longside1

Mtmm has got kind of close, but IMHO it's not quite the Dave Hill look and certainly not better (I'm sure Mtmm will agree with this also). You may want to ask him how he acheives his look, but I know he doesn't like sharing the knowledge which is a shame, but I suspect it's pretty close to what I described earlier!

To be quite honest, due to all the attention Dave Hill has received, whilst I think it is a great technique, the look is now somewhat dated.

I see.

In this case it is better i stick with HDR rather than his style, it is much easier for me with HDR than DH technique.

[HelloPiccadilly]

omg..

Just trying to create smthng atmospheric )

http://img156.imageshack.us/img156/5...ghouse2ib0.jpg

p.s. for your safety: be careful with fire

[igot2pman]

Originally Posted by HelloPiccadilly

Just trying to create smthng atmospheric

In my view its close...

I really like this, can you go a bit more into how you did it.

-Keven

[HelloPiccadilly]

No problem..but: why do we call this "DH look"?))

This is just HDR background + second shot of people..
Most time takes to merge and retouch HDR background.

The problem is that background I was able to take with f/25 iso 100 (nikon d80)

As concerns, a shot of these girls I was able to take just with f/7 iso 400.

Maybe, if I had additional lighting equipment, it would be more clear&sharp..

The temperature was about -30 degree, so it wasn't so funny to take a lot of pictures, so concept of picture is quite fail ((

(p.s. sorry for my english)

[Tareq]

Check this website, to me he is doing better than Dave Hill, so why didn't call this technique his name?

http://www.jangonzales.com/