Photo Retouching - - The demystification of dave hill! let's all help! - Page 52

Mtmm · #**766** 06-17-2008, 05:23 PM

Actually i got to study more on that. So false alarm, sorry.

zogdart · #**767** 06-17-2008, 06:21 PM

Mtmm nice shot.

but your link doesn't work anymore.

Any chance we can get some info on your post-processign?
I saw that you applied it to both picture. can we see a before process?
Do you achieve this look with lightroom by changing some of the numbers on the Scott Kelby Tutorial?
Do you use just a bit of the Lucis Art?

I would love to know!

Can you give Us something......Anything......Please.

namphoto · #**768** 06-18-2008, 12:10 AM

If youre wondering about Mtmm's "select color range" method, what you do is to add a final touch of highlights, you go to select color range, select the whitest point on the subject and bring the fuzziness down so that the color range is limited only to the areas you want to be highlighted, press okay. with your selection, create a new layer, feather the selection a little bit and then fill the area with white and select your choice of blending mode, usually softlight or overlay, then use opacity to decrease amount of highlights.

OperaFan1981 · #**769** 06-18-2008, 01:17 AM

http://rapidshare.com/files/123251034/raaw.tif.html

My try.

1) Extract the luminosity from the channel palette. This would result in a BW image. For this I decided to use the R-Channel. You can even use the G channel if you wish. If you look at the B-channel, things are getting muted and muddy (there isn't contrast).

2) To this extracted R-Channle luminosity, put in overlay and run a high pass at raidus = 2. (Again, this is image dependent--you'll just to remember to make the edges pop subtlely.)

3) Click OK. Use the eyeball to see the effects of it. Another is to extract the B-channel luminosity in put on luminosity blending and run your USM at 50,30,0. Again, this will make those edges pop out.

4) close all the layers by pressing your eyeball and using your BG, copy the B-channel and run a "Find Edges Filter" on the duplicated B-Channel copy. You are making an edge mask here.

5) CTRL Click that edge mask and load it onto the R-Channel that you ran your HP settings.

6) Sharpen that R-Channel extract layer by using USM, 500% and R=0.2-0.3

7) Use your color picker took to select the highest pixels, I sampled mine from the face and set this to the foreground color.

8) I then went to Select, color range, and drag the fuzz until only the highlights on the skin are selected.

9) With the marching ants on the highlights already, add a color fill adj. layer and select 255,255,255 as your fill color.

10) Go into the mask and do a 1-2 Gaussian Blur filter to sort of smooth out the highlight.

Mtmm · #**770** 06-18-2008, 03:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zogdart

Mtmm nice shot.

but your link doesn't work anymore.

Any chance we can get some info on your post-processign?
I saw that you applied it to both picture. can we see a before process?
Do you achieve this look with lightroom by changing some of the numbers on the Scott Kelby Tutorial?
Do you use just a bit of the Lucis Art?

I would love to know!

Can you give Us something......Anything......Please.

Scott Kelbys lightroom tutorial is a fail. It does not work on humans, it generates terrible halos. But I believe that Scott was doing a tutorial for background shots.

I can say, that mastering and controlling a tonal contrast(low, mid, high) is the key for finishing photos. Before that it´s lots and lots of lights, d/b and layer blendings. But in the end, lighting is what rules. Skin tones and textures are still a mystery to me.

Selecting color range with white and sometimes with blacks is a neat way to ad some cool effect to photo. But you must be carefull, do it just a bit, so that it´s not so visible.

zogdart · #**771** 06-18-2008, 11:04 AM

Thank's for giving us something =;+)

I find this guy http://www.flickr.com/photos/7401855@N08/page2/ and he say's he acheive this almost 90 to a 100% with lightroom. I love the treatment. Wonder what is setting's are? It's not Dave Hill but he defently has a nice flavor!

For the lighting part I have no probleme with it. it's quite simple when you have the right tool's and know what your doing.

My probleme is more in the post-processe of those image.

Any of you have a idea how it's done!!!!

CaptainHook · #**772** 06-19-2008, 01:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by zogdart

he say's he acheive this almost 90 to a 100% with lightroom.

"LOWONLANDS says:
50% LR and 50% PS .. .. .. "

Cyberek · #**773** 06-19-2008, 01:41 AM

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7401855...7604346063212/

See here: 90/10.
I think He is shure using "crank it all" method (but not 100% as it was described before), but process skin in seperate (PS part), then use two postprocessed images, then connected and masked (als PS part)... so "crank" works there, where he wants, and just as much as he needs.

Or in other words -> this is how I can get to this kind of result

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CaptainHook · #**774** 06-19-2008, 01:52 AM

Just found that too actually.
And this 100% LR apparently:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7401855...7604346063212/

photoc · #**775** 06-19-2008, 02:12 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainHook

Just found that too actually.
And this 100% LR apparently:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/7401855...7604346063212/

Had noticed that photo on flickr too, great photo.

My guess would be its Lightroom 2.0b with lots of dodge/burn and some clarity. And mayby hsl adjustments for total toning.

Dig your stuff Mike, it stands out. Keep it up. Hyvältä näyttääpi.

longside1 · #**776** 06-22-2008, 05:16 PM

My take on things:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/...0d2f90c3_b.jpg

Lit using four off camera strobes, for wrap around lighting effect. Finished with quite a bit of PP!

Comments more than welcome!

superkoax · #**777** 06-23-2008, 05:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by longside1

My take on things:

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3173/...0d2f90c3_b.jpg

Lit using four off camera strobes, for wrap around lighting effect. Finished with quite a bit of PP!

Comments more than welcome!

hmmmm...the front right tire needs air...his left foot is stuck in the concrete...overall a nice attempt, but needs A BIT more work on finding the right angle and footwork...Didn't see the DH look at all...Would try on a different idea here...

thanks for sharing

Gerry

pellepiano · #**778** 06-24-2008, 02:46 AM

Here is a before and after of Dave Hill. I think its been posted before, but should not hurt to show again.
It shows some really nice post work.

skydog · #**779** 06-24-2008, 06:14 AM

How much do you think is invested in lighting and misc other equipment? Any idea of the lights used?

namphoto · #**780** 06-24-2008, 11:48 AM

Actually the lights he uses are pretty inexpensive monolights: White Lightnings, made by Paul C. Bluff. Assuming he has used anywhere from 3-8 lights in a shoot, each light is 670 for the highest model, and 480 for the second highest model, so.. 3840-5360 on his monolights, plus another 1000 or so for light modifiers and another 2500 for his profoto ring flash and pack.

But I can assure EVERYONE the expenses aren't a special ingredient, it just tops it off really.. In the photo below, off of Hill's website, this shot has no special lighting, no special tricks, but retouch work.. No kicker's no ring flash fill.. Looks like a big softbox and he just took a candid shot, but he still made it work. So figure that one out..