The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[superkoax]

schultzy: Nice picture, I can see that you have use shadows/highlights filter here...it pushes up the noise as well...maybe on the key parts on the picture( tattoo and cheeks...) you can use the effect, but mask down areas surrounding them?

Gerry

[dmitrim]

Originally Posted by schultzy

I have been trying to learn his technique for quite a while now, and I still can't figure it out. No matter what I do, they always come out a little on the flat side. That being said, here is a photo I just worked on...Not close to Mr.Hill's level of excellence, but not too shabby. I have also used the same technique in another photo I have posted on here somewhere, but I tweeked the effect so it is less noticeable.

Here's the photo:
http://daniellahaiephotography.com/b...background.jpg

Sorry I am hosting it off my site, as it is a rather large side by side with the original photo.

This stuff doesn't work on females. You guys shouldn't even try. High pass and sharpening don't do well with the female's skin. And when you sharpen something,mask itout to avoid halos.

Dodge and burn it all you need.here a 2 minute example

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4854/villageac3.jpg

[edgework]

Originally Posted by dmitrim

This stuff doesn't work on females. You guys shouldn't even try. High pass and sharpening don't do well with the female's skin. And when you sharpen something,mask itout to avoid halos.

I agree in principle with this, but you hit on a much more critical issue without realizing it. Those halos indicate that, recipe specs notwithstanding, for this image, the settings are inappropriate. Sharpening, however it's done, is always welcome, and using sharpening to provide contrast-inducing halos is also a useful technique (Margulis calls it HIRALOAM for hi radius low amount sharpening; it's also called local contrast in some articles). Here, it's just wrong. Who cares how it got there, it's a bad result. That's my problem with Action oriented approaches to any effect: every image is different. In this case, all you need to do is step back and look at the dirty grunge and compare it with anything by Dave Hill and you know you took a wrong turn.

[digikunst]

i want to try it too ^^

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hilltrytj1.jpg

[boostyone]

Does anyone know how to edit like this? I am looking for a tutorial. I know for a fact lucisart or any thirdparty plugin isn't involved, just Photoshop. HELP!

http://www.adambartas.com/

[Oh_Heck]

Well, might as well give it a try. I'm sure i'm not even in the ballpark on this, but I tried to get the high contrast that he has in his images. Lotta curve adjustments...

http://img454.imageshack.us/img454/9...ke2pthhln9.jpg

[Calvinhollywood]

Hi from Germany

Here is my Part
http://img341.imageshack.us/img341/6...schichtvm5.jpg

lg Calvin
http://www.calvinhollywood.de

[superkoax]

calvin: really nice work there...


gerry

[Calvinhollywood]

Thx.... done with 2 lights.... a soft light on the female and a hard light on background
then a lot of dodge and burning and sharpen techniks with unsharp mask

sorry for my bad english

lg Calvin

[AdamZx3]

Nice work calvin, that's the closest to Dave hills look i've seen yet! Very Nice.

When you say that you used two lights did you mean two lights when you where photographing it or the two light blend modes?

Is there anyway we could see the before photo? I am dying to see how much of it is from the lighting!

[gsd]

very nice, Calvin.

[FaanP]

Here is my best attempt to date ...
http://i152.photobucket.com/albums/s...391-comp-d.jpg

[superkoax]

FAANP: The effect is good on the shoes, but around it looks very odd to me...too much of something...

Gerry

[FaanP]

Thanks .... still struggeling ... will get it right someday ....

[superkoax]

but to achieve the dave hill look...remmeber to have EVERYTHING in the picture in focus and pin sharp...blurred backgrounds doesn't give you and help...

gerry