The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[Quantum3Studio]

Originally Posted by Mtmm

I posted those just when Cypi asked. I get most info when some pro reveals BA. To me is enough to see what has changed, it does not matter how it has been changed. I dont need a hand to guide me through a workflow, I love to explore by myself and make my own workflows.

I agree... WE have our own methods of work and the quote says that the wizard is wizard because only the wizard knows his secrets. However, just lazy people asks for an step by step tutorial. I really like experimentation and thinking how could be done some style, etc. Also, in the trying to discover process, you usually can get other interesting results that cannot be found by following the rules.

[longside1]

Hi Snook,

The purpose of my earlier discourse with MTMM was simply for the benefit of other less proficient Photoshop users.

To be quite honest I'm not that interested in the Dave Hill look anyway as it is very dated now. I'm personally much more intrigued by more refined photographers / retouchers such as Andzrej Dragan.

In terms of going out and shooting that is exactly what I have been doing and am very pleased with the look I have acheived...here is my latest Fine Art Portrait as proof and no, it is not Dave Hill!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/...68b1863d_b.jpg

Unlike you who claim not to be interested in the Dave Hill look, I will stand by this post and will no longer be contributing to this thread.

Good luck everyone in their quest for the infamous DH look. By the time you've figured it out it it might be back in fashion again.

[snook305]

Originally Posted by longside1

Hi Snook,

The purpose of my earlier discourse with MTMM was simply for the benefit of other less proficient Photoshop users.

To be quite honest I'm not that interested in the Dave Hill look anyway as it is very dated now. I'm personally much more intrigued by more refined photographers / retouchers such as Andzrej Dragan.

In terms of going out and shooting that is exactly what I have been doing and am very pleased with the look I have acheived...here is my latest Fine Art Portrait as proof and no, it is not Dave Hill!

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2440/...68b1863d_b.jpg

Unlike you who claim not to be interested in the Dave Hill look, I will stand by this post and will no longer be contributing to this thread.

Good luck everyone in their quest for the infamous DH look. By the time you've figured it out it it might be back in fashion again.

Not sure what you last post meant.
!. Your image looks nothing like Dragan.
2.Dragan Post probably were the Hottest Post in EVERY forum all of the world and never really went anywhere either, so good luck.
3.What did you contribute so far that you will not contribute anymore? Sorry do not get it.
4.If your not interested in DH than what the hell you in this thread for?
5.Go out and shoot a 5 point set up and then post it here and maybe someone can DH it for you including Mtmm.
6.Luck is for horseshoes and Hand greandes, not photoshop.
7. Mtmm work also has nothing to do with Dragan and will not help in any case. They are totally different approaches.

8.Sorry you will be leaving, but when you figure out the Dragan technique post it, b/c there over 600.000 people looking for the same thing according to the request...

I'll will give you a tip for the dragan look.
Throw a layer above you colored layer but in B&W (of you choice) and throw that layer on Multiply or Lumnosity then D&B the hell out of the image, especially the edges to get nice and dark.
Then Liquify variuos face feature to exaggerate them...:+}


Snook

[Fadewoodarts]

Everybody here inspires me to post how I feel...

http://www.fadewoodarts.com/oldpatredone.jpg

[snook305]

Originally Posted by Fadewoodarts

Everybody here inspires me to post how I feel...

http://www.fadewoodarts.com/oldpatredone.jpg

I felt just like you when it took 15 minutes for one picture from your site to load...........................................................................................................................LOL
Snook

[snook305]

Mamiya RZProIID with A P30 or P45 Digital Back.
Catalogue usually and a lot of images on my site are Canon 1DsMII.
All Profoto Lighting.

[Fadewoodarts]

Originally Posted by snook305

I felt just like you when it took 15 minutes for one picture from your site to load...........................................................................................................................LOL
Snook

Hey now Im working on it, Im working on it lol Im a stickler for best quality, but I guess I gotta forfeit that for faster loading times.

[Fadewoodarts]

http://www.fadewoodarts.com/left4dead.png

This shot IMO is def pretty damn photoshopped.. next time we will be more prepared with props and what not and skin alterations and fake blood, kind of last minute shoot for class, but we ended up going with the vampire/zombie killer effect. I think its pretty funny.. like "Get the hell out of my hottub" look.

Whatevs

[monsterpix]

Hi, I have been popping back to this thread here and there for the last 30 pages or so and think enough info has been revealed by various folks to produce pretty good results. Here (i hope if the attachment works) is my version from info only got from this thread.

[Fadewoodarts]

Originally Posted by cypisek

cool hehe Fadewoodarts, your photos look like first photo DH when he started adventure with his own style. You are on the good way to success !!! You need only more lights and ringflash and will be really really nice

best regards
Philip

Thanks Philip, I own a ring flash, and yes I debated using it on that shoot, and I should have to fill in more areas like his tactical vest on the left. We used about 6 lights and shot for the background first on tripod, then kept position and shot both the guys separately with separate lighting and then composited. It was at 3 in the morning, didn't have our full brain power that night as well after a few drinks. lol

[Gee]

lol guyz
check out his new website
the ad part is blam, massive.

and there is one picture of gym class heroes he made with clowns in it.
and this his biggest picture ever for me.

seriously he totally changed as we can see and as we can read on his blog...
and its much more subtile, much more clean & pro.
i totally like his new work.

enjoy.

[HelloPiccadilly]

it's just amazing

dh or his team does great job!! )

[Fadewoodarts]

Oh man, I love his new stuff, a lot of his new work has grain and not as saturated as his old stuff.. makes it look even more realistic. I am so happy he actually put up sections of his normal portraits as well, that aren't totally DHed out , and they are all with natural light. He really did a good upgrade from his last website. I also am enjoying his black and white landscapes a lot, along with his new section of b&w portraits. Not to mention his new Behind the Scenes videos are great too.

[Fadewoodarts]

Originally Posted by cypisek

This new www site is loading very slowly:/

Yeah haha, kinda reminded me of how I need to fix my site. Slow slow slow slow slowwwwwww..

I can see why his is slow like mine though, his images on his new site are pretty damn nice quality for a flash website. Its hard to make a huge flash website with high quality images load fast. Usually its file size, and im sure it will take a bit before his site hits final stages so it loads faster.

[Svald7]

If the site is slow, you can find the DH Adventure Girl BTS video at Vimeo. Good stuff, watch it in HD.

http://www.vimeo.com/5082148

[Mtmm]

New photos are really cool. Way to go Dave. Site is slow when everyone is browsing it.

[Mtmm]

Originally Posted by cypisek

Mike, when you will buy Hasselblad or Mamiya?

Phase one would be cool, but I´m waiting for Canon´s next camera. Or I will go with Nikon D3X.

[Mtmm]

I did a cool world war II shoot yesterday, but a magazine where photos are on, is coming out like in september.

[Benny Profane]

bump to do my part for 2000! rock on.

[snook305]

One of the funniest videos I have seen is The Dave Hill video were he tries to shoot a fashion story!!
What a freakin disaster!! I laughed my ass off.
Dave better stick to HipHop!!!

Snook

[Mtmm]

There is nothing to demystificate. I have no style.

OT: Daves website is down at this point.

[Mtmm]

I havent got any email from you. Did you send it to mike at pakkotoisto.com?

[snook305]

"And if I take the retouching further, I can create more highlites and shadows with first softing the skin with
linear light layer with gaussian and high pass keeping the detail in the skin. Then using first white with
"select color range" and then again d/b heavily.
This is just an overdone demo with extracted photo.
And this is not even close Dave Hill, but with a good lighting you can do some heavy retouch without
damaging the photo with halos and other shit. I still believe, that Dave is going through the whole photo
with d/b and then he does his magic.



Key point still is a good lighting with enough highlites and shadow detail."

Some previuos quotes and steps

[Calvinhollywood]

Hi all. Wow Thread is still running. Respekt.

After starting this thread many people wrote me emails about my work and my post production.
I dont have the Dave Hill style. And i dont know how Dave Hill work.
I just can explain you my own style or work.
Maybe i have some techniques what Dave Hill also usw. I dont know
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I dont have secrets in my work. And i share my techniques in many many ways in germany.
I know that many people dont understand german so i like to start sharing my techniques in english.

If you are interested you can join today at 11pm german time at my free webinar about some of my photoshop techniques.
If enough people are interested i will do more webinares.

I do webinars now for 1 years.... this is my first i try in english :-)
More information here
http://www.calvinhollywood-blog.com/...shlayer-party/

Sorry for going "off-topic" here. I just like to helph. And its absolutly free

So keep on going with your techniques all and good luck to get the result what you looking for

lg Calvin Hollywood

[HelloPiccadilly]

I will!!
But I can't understand german to come in th the room!

[Calvinhollywood]

@Piccadilly
Just klick on the Link at the right time, choose a name and join. Its easy.
For more questions write me on my blog , not here.
This thread is a Dave Hill thread

lg Calvin

[HelloPiccadilly]

though it's 3am in my city when in Germany 11pm I definitely will!! ))
thx Calvin!

[snook305]

Hey Calvin good show today..
Shows what type a person you are.
Keep up the good work and helping people.
Mtmm could take some lessons from you..
Saw a lot of guys from here over there today..

Snook

[Fadewoodarts]

Yes Calvin Hollywood awesome job today, I was happy when I got on here only to find out late that you were doing the show, and got in there half way through, not knowing what time it was or anything.. haha.

I created a new thread, IMO to start over, away from all the dave hill hype, to further all our interests in this type of photographic work, and not demystify one person.

Thread can be found here:
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...ok-thread.html

[Quantum3Studio]

Calvin Hoollywood have a great technique with the RAW Process... I have been playing around with that technique and man, it opens lot of new doors