The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[snook305]

Originally Posted by TreesOfMyTime

It would be interesting to see the steps!

trees his steps are highpass and too much of in fact...
Do a huge high pass on overlay and you'll get that effect...
Snook

[Gee]

not a huge, a massive one

[rystro]

Originally Posted by Gee

not a huge, a massive one

haha. tis true.

[TreesOfMyTime]

Originally Posted by snook305

trees his steps are highpass and too much of in fact...
Do a huge high pass on overlay and you'll get that effect...
Snook

But he/she said no D/b, no sharpening, so I asked . . . . what then?

[rystro]

Originally Posted by TreesOfMyTime

But he/she said no D/b, no sharpening, so I asked . . . . what then?

I think the bigger point is... why would you want to know?

[TreesOfMyTime]

Why is that a bigger point? I have a right to ask a question and that should neither offend anyone. nor indicate anything about me but an interest in the answer to my question.

[rystro]

Hey man, I don't care if you ask or want to know. I was only wondering why would you want to know how that person achieve a halo-ed highpassy image? It doesn't look a thing like Dave Hill.

I digress, and sorry if I offended you. I didn't mean to, or the poster of that image.

[TreesOfMyTime]

OK, no offense taken.

For the record, I use a touch of Lucis Art in portraits and find that folks will pay more for the result. When I sell landscape images at fairs, people will choose HDR 12:1 over straight single exposures.

As a result, I am interested in anything that affects the image even if it seems heavy handed, because I am always interested in something I can use, albeit on a layer at a reduced opacity.

[snook305]

Hey Don.. It is done by:
goto highpass on the image and put it on the blend mode softlight/overlay etc.. each one will make it a little stronger. I learned a little trick the other day so you can see it in the preview..
Try putting your image in Overlay or softlight first then bring up the `Highpass filter and then whe yo push up the effect you can see it right away on the image instead of having to wait and see what you did after you press OK...
The only thing is , is at 0% your image looks like it would on overlay so you cannot really see wat the image looks lie with no effect..
Hope that makes sense.
Put the duplicated image through all this.. not just a layer...:+}
DAve Hill says he uses a lot of sharpening which he may do high pass but in small steps b/c all at once can look really ugly like the image the poster posted..
of course that is only my opinion.
Either way looks nothing like Dave Hill.
Most people here do not realize that a lot of their over worked images may look good here or on the web, but printed they will look like crap if your not careful...
Hard to print blacks and shadows very well.
Snook

[rystro]

You can always mask the halos out if you love the high-pass look.

[TreesOfMyTime]

I had taken at face value that the poster used No sharpening as he/she said. The High Pass Filter is commonly used for sharpening and has some advantages. I thought maybe this person had come up with some other approach.

Thanks for your inputs!

Don

[morpheus1870]

Originally Posted by snook305

Dude you defintely have some problems..

You come in here asking for all kinds of help..Even stating to others that they are holding out, then when called on your own post you do the same..
then I am trying to get what you say clear. I simply state what you have already stated. you even posted and image showing it. On this image I used only D&B and bleach hypass.
Then I ask you what bleach bypass you are using and you say you never said that.
So I quote you and you seem to have forgotten or do not want anybody to know that is what you are doing.
Who is the wise guy here...??

By the way your select range with white is the Amy dressler trick that she so un selfishly told everyone.
She even posted a psd with an actual image showing it on her layers.
People that are secure in what they are doing and are un selfish are the ones that help out and are not worried about peope copying them.
Like I said, no one is going to say... Wow that is the Mtmm look..
Dude when you grow up and want to play with the Big boys come on back,
but if you come in here only ranting to others then doing the same thing is not cool.
If you look at you history state here , you only have come in to pick out this thread.. So your leaving is going to be your loss...
Snook

Amen......

[superkoax]

How many of you have actually tried to see Dave Hills behind the scenes and tried to compare the behind the scene pictures with the pictures in his portfolio? I'm not sure if someone posted this before, but if you look at the "early November Promo Shoot" and find the band picture in portfolio nr3(top right corner) and look at the two guys sitting with the table...They are the same in the before an dafter shot...Wouldn't we all agree on that it's PS that made the effect? Look at the difference in details when you look at the clothing and table...

[snook305]

Photoshop... Now way..
It is the lighting...
you did not see the video where he shows the black electric tape strips on the his ringflash.. that is what does it.. Special lighting...:+]

There is hardly any post....:+}

Alos as we all know by now that dave is also lying a lot..
He laughs about using HDR trying to be sarcastic yet all his backgrounds or most are HDR...
I guess he means he personally does not HDR but obviously his retoucher does.
Or maybe he smoking the same the Mtmm is and really cannot remember how he does it or what he says..:+}

Hey Mtmm.. what up...
Snook

[rystro]

To me... its very obvious he is using some sort of HDR on the background, then he is compositing each model into the scene.

See in this before and after shot. He lights each set of models individually, layers them, masks them in. At least in this shot.

Before and After Shot

The only way that makes me think it isn't HDR (at least not an extreme HDR) is that the windows are blown out.