The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[Eric van Nox]

I am glad DH reveals some of his lightening techniques. For me I think 80% of his look result of the right lightening setup. As you can see in many of his BTS-videos.

I like his style anyway. :-)

[Calvinhollywood]

@Snook
Its not fair to compare two artists. And your last words have nothing to do with Dave Hill.
So please get back to the topic

lg Calvin

[snook305]

Originally Posted by Calvinhollywood

@Snook
Its not fair to compare two artists. And your last words have nothing to do with Dave Hill.
So please get back to the topic

lg Calvin

Sorry but I do not understand your statement?
I think you must have mixed up post..

Snook

[Calvinhollywood]

No snook.
This was your post

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This thread is located at:
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...-new-post.html

Here is the message that has just been posted:
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Hey Calvin good show today..
Shows what type a person you are.
Keep up the good work and helping people.
Mtmm could take ome lessons from you..
Saw a lot of guys from here over there today..

Snook
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Stop kidding me and the other people. Thats not fair. Dont delet your message next time.

lg Calvin

[snook305]

Calvin you re directed to this same post..
Sorry but I really have no idea what you are talking about.
I have not edited anything??
You redirect comes to this same post..

Were you up to late last night?:+}

Snook

PS> Calvin if my post was edited it would say edited just like this will..
Go back and check b/c unfortunetly I have NO idea what you are talking about and I never edited my post and I actually was thanking you and complimenting you..

I think you need to re-read my post and you will see that.

You speak great English but you must read with difficulties...LOL
Snook

You mind showing me and everyone here where the Hell do you see that I edited or Deleted ANY post of mine..??
Smoke another one!

[Calvinhollywood]

Ive got this post per email. It was a copy and paste from a email of this thread. :-)
But i dont like to talk about it anymore. Forget it:-)

lg Calvin

[d00dle]

hi Calvinhollywood,

i didnt get a chance to see your SWAT technique

[Calvinhollywood]

@d00dle
Sorry, i will do more webinars (for free). Dont worry

lg Calvin

[d00dle]

can you please give a quick overview of the process you did to the SWAT?

[Fadewoodarts]

Hey everyone, come check out my new thread...

People ask too many questions about how a photo is done by Calvin or someone else in here when this is a Dave Hill thread.

I started a new thread for the sole purpose of asking questions and learning more about how these techniques are used.

http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...ok-thread.html

[skydog]

calvin...great show...I had real technical difficulties with the sound during the SWAT, but it cleared up after that. I was amazed with you last photo...what you created with a very dark poorly lit photo. You can indeed do a lot with photoshop. you bring a lot of small key techniques into one photo. That's what makes this site so valuable..picking up small ideas that you can eventually apply to one photo. Like you said, you learned some of your techniques from a friend...again thanks for sharing...looking forward to the next one.

[skydog]

fatewood...let it go...this thread has a life of its own.

[vapour]

http://davehillphoto.com/ - loads new amazing photos

[manzneri]

I didn't see the web-tutorial that calvin took, did anyone record it? I would love to download it somewhere....

[Calvinhollywood]

@Manzneri
If you find a recording letting me know... then i can inform my lawyer:-)
@All
Sorry for going Off Topic. I told many times that all please write about Dave Hill.

lg Calvin

[amica999]

manzneri, it is not allowed to record live events by guests, so you will not have any luck - only chance is either Calvin himself recorded and will re-broadcast - or do another session

To make it a little easier for you, he didn't show techniques in depth - he will do another webinar for that - but did go through his layers explaining what he did and why...Do watch his blog for future event announcements

[manzneri]

Allright...But i still find it difficult to be in front of my screen on the right time ;( My regular job takes most of my time. So it would be better if there would be a downloadable file.

Didn't know that it is illegal to record those sessions.

[Calvinhollywood]

@Cypisek... i will do that....

[Calvinhollywood]

Sorry for going off topic here
Here is my own thread and now please talk about dave hill here*g*
http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...echniques.html

lg Calvin

[skydog]

vapour,

Looking at Hills updated site...I like some of the first photos of the girl and the soldiers. A lot of planned production. You wonder how many takes and hours went into those shots.
Not impressed with the cowboy shots out west compared to the others...I wonder if Dave is really doing all these composites or his hired crew. I also wonder about the Alabama shots and how much setup was really involved. He must have something quick and mobile.

[snook305]

You can see his retoucher on the plane retouching for him. He is not retouching himself.
Also someone mentioned that his newer stuff looks smoother, well it has to be b/c he is shooting Women which will not tolerate his grungy over done look like the gold tooth rappers do and men in general. He had to tone it down for sure.
Snook

[Tareq]

It is lighting, i saw many shots by others which are same or better than Dave Hill just with lighting, and without any processing, so if they process maybe they will get something outstanding and Dave Hill is not only one, he is so talented and great photographer but he was lucky that the techniques he used spread out that time so widely which gave him credits, but in the future many will alter another techniques that kick his technique.

To be honest, his technique is not so difficult to achieve with great lighting and good shots to start with, but really i love "Dragan" style much.

[Mtmm]

Originally Posted by Tareq

To be honest, his technique is not so difficult to achieve with great lighting and good shots to start with

Then go for it. I am 100% sure, that even with Dave taking photos, you could not make those images, sorry.

There are lots of folks who just dont see the difference between shitty photoshop and Dave Hill. You can see that just by browsing this thread. Calvin and Pelle has their own styles, but not even close Dave. Dave just raised a bar so fucking high that we all can just shut up. We dont ever get to that level, sorry.

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[skydog]

Mtmm...you're stuff is pretty damn close and I figured if you had his equipment you would be close to the same.

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by skydog

mtmm...you're stuff is pretty damn close and i figured if you had his equipment you would be close to the same.

+++++100
:-)

[vapour]

Originally Posted by Mtmm

Dave just raised a bar so fucking high that we all can just shut up. We dont ever get to that level, sorry.

I agree his new stuff is incredible. It really says a lot about an artist who can continually be progressive with his craft.

In regards to showing his friend on the plane doing a bit of retouching. I'm sure there are a few others that have a hand in the retouching process but I guarantee they are just doing some of the dirty work. (IE. sectioning masks of the photo etc.) In many interviews Dave Hill has said that he himself does the retouching and spends hours on each photo.

Dave Hill has really stepped up his game with his new images. The retouching has been refined.

[Mtmm]

No matter how you try, Dave is Dave. It´s better to build an own style than be a wannabe copycat.

What better equipment? I believe that Pelle has all the tools to make what ever light setup he wants, and so do I. It´s not the lights anymore, that is not the dificult part. What Dave does with his new photos, is just awesome. That is fucking art, technical shit, true skills.

Even if we had Dave himself retouching, it would not be the same. This all comes to the fact, that you need

- Good idea
- Good locations
- Good model
- Good light setup
- Good composition (masking, perspectives)
- Good clean retouching
- Lots of time

[Fadewoodarts]

Originally Posted by Mtmm

No matter how you try, Dave is Dave. It´s better to build an own style than be a wannabe copycat.

What better equipment? I believe that Pelle has all the tools to make what ever light setup he wants, and so do I. It´s not the lights anymore, that is not the dificult part. What Dave does with his new photos, is just awesome. That is fucking art, technical shit, true skills.

Even if we had Dave himself retouching, it would not be the same. This all comes to the fact, that you need

- Good idea
- Good locations
- Good model
- Good light setup
- Good composition (masking, perspectives)
- Good clean retouching
- Lots of time

- Good Hot Models...

[skydog]

Like all of us he wants to get better...plus he wants/needs to stay a step ahead...otherwise he is just "one trick pony"

[Mtmm]

Originally Posted by skydog

Like all of us he wants to get better...plus he wants/needs to stay a step ahead...otherwise he is just "one trick pony"

That is just so stupid. Dave has pretty many tricks to achieve his style, and that style sells. Any of you don´t have even one trick to do anything, so shut up.

Or should Dave say to his customers "I want do do this experiment, lets do this overkill with high pass filter and make your album cover look like shit".

One pony trick, my god, this thread is getting to a state of total idiotism.