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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 05-29-2008, 05:17 PM
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This is still on-going?
Yes it is...Are we getting any closer??? I think we are...how much closer you ask? Enough to keep it going

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So, heres my few words about my way :
- some ask if it is HDR - it is not
- some ask if it is few pictures connected together and mask work - it is not
- some ask if it needs good light - yes it needs... im lasy, bad ligtning meens more work, also its easy to get "halos" effect around edges... so it is about lightning (U can chceck shadows under the car, u will understand what i mean)
- some says, it needs a lot of time in Photoshop to get this effect - some yes, a lot no. Its more about preparing picture in the beginning, then to get the final look.

So, if U are a good photographer and can get good photo, with quite good lightning (2 Canon EX'es + 1 or 2 blends is enought if u know how use the light), then the rest is quite easy. Maybe today i will show u version with bad lightning to show what im writing about .
I understand what you are saying, BUTyour result isn't that good...It looks very lucis arts to me...So, maybe explain in more detail what you have done....Thanks for sharing...


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4 flashes. 3 softboxes and 1 ringflash and Wacom about 2,5 hours.
Your results are getting better and better each time....But your results are looking more like a mtmm photo/style and that is even better...thanks for putting in the effort to give us more ideas/inspiration and good tips...and thanks for the behind the scene...
As a side note, in your picture I would love to see more movement in the players...that is what I miss

Cheers

Gerry
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Old 05-29-2008, 05:49 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I like the Morpheus' version. Still photographic! Right on.

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My attempt.
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Old 05-30-2008, 02:00 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Morpheus,
Personally I would forget about DH an work on perfecting what your doing, I like it better. My opinion the smooth pastel skin look will be something we look at in 15 years and go "wow, what were we thinking", not unlike the oversaturated films of the 70's.
Amen!!! I agree except I'm betting it will be more like 5 at best, rather then 15.
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:31 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

sigh! Isn't wonderful?! Still after all this time we are still talking about what's hot and not with Dave Hill! Never thought that this thread would get this response, and all the different opinions that people have! We whent from d/b to lighting around post 325?!(haven't checked) and still people have to say what they don't like and do like about his style! AMazing! Every word count and every opinion is important!

KEEP POSTING

And thanks for sharing!


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Old 05-30-2008, 06:35 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

So Gerry...since you started this post what have you really learned? Again..the few that provide a good shot provide little details...just the tease...
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Old 05-30-2008, 06:54 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

this thread should be summarized
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Old 05-30-2008, 09:41 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Saby, just read this page, pretty much sums it up.
Gerry is still really excited that he started this thread.
Some people are so enamored of this mediocre photographer with the one style of retouching that it's passed laughable and gotten sad.
Others think he and his style are just a sign of the times, kinda like torture porn-it doesn't have to be good or artistic or rely on any of the rules that made Hitchock great cinema, just show lots of gore and the kids will buy it. Same thing, only not gore-grunge.
When a dave hill is posted here nobody raises an eyebrow, and when they realize it was a dave hill they say "oh well, that wasn't a good dave hill he was just messin around there"
BTW Cyberek, Gerry posted almost exactly the same comment when I posted a DAVE HILL, so if that's the look you want keep going you must be close.
If we look for some merit it's gotta be people like morpheus who are getting lot's of practice (and becoming quite good in his case) at d&b.
Oh and about the tecnique... survey says lots and lots of lights and lots and lots of d&B.
Of course as always, just my opinion I could be wrong.
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Cyber your last post is just blah blah blah blah...
Are you really even saying anything in your posts??
Seriously!!
And I cannot believe you guys are still talking about lighting..
Yes the light is not just One..
But it is rather easy lighting.
THE LIGHTING has ZERO effect on the Cartoonish look that dave and others are getting..
Would you guys stop saying that.
2 kicker lights from the side and One key with some kind of Fill (re:ringflash)
is not Rocket Science!!
Dave's Pictures would be next to Boring if did not have his effect and his Punk looking Band members...
Un like many Great photographers who have several kinds of lighting and looks, Dave , Although very talented, has a One look show going and it will fade pretty quickly...
Snook
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Old 05-30-2008, 03:29 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Wrong sport two.
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I have a friend who looks just like that by the 4th hole/beer.
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