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Old 05-30-2008, 03:35 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Mtmm.. Your stuff looks the closest and sometimes even better than Dave Hill...:+}
When you going to post some advice..?
Nice how you showed th lighting set-up for the hockey shot...
Just so people can understand the lighting is easy and has not much to do with the final effect...
Would be great if you could post some pointers as yours looks the closest!
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Old 05-30-2008, 03:51 PM
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I have done some background videos, maybe I should do those in english. I use english only when I´m shooting foreign competitors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibAdspT25rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sz0k...eature=related
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Old 05-30-2008, 03:59 PM
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Mtmm.. Your stuff looks the closest and sometimes even better than Dave Hill...:+}

Snook
Agreed, as far as the photography goes I would much rather see these shots...
http://www.pakkotoisto.com/mike/
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:05 PM
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I have done some background videos, maybe I should do those in english. I use english only when I´m shooting foreign competitors.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ibAdspT25rg
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7sz0k...eature=related
do them in english and that'd be awesome!
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Old 05-30-2008, 04:54 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Not really interested in the lighting at all..
The Post is what this post is about and the website basically..:+}
Retouching.
The lighting like I said is pretty basic as you can now see...
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Mtmm is a perfect example of how these threads usually go..
These guys ask for help help and then when they need to give a little help, they disappear... Or post a bunch of their pictures they have done...

No body had asked about lighting etc..
The post steps is what we are looking to learn more about so we can apply it to our/your own style of shooting....
I get basically your same effect using Lucis on several lower opacity layers then erasing where I do not want it which is usually the skins.
You can blur it a little and take the reds and ranges out a bit to get rid of that Harsh Lucis skin people get.
Or you can go about the Lightroom Scott Kelby tutorial.
Would be nice to see if Mtmm would post some of his basic steps to see if they are any different from others advices?
Snook
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Saby, just read this page, pretty much sums it up.
Gerry is still really excited that he started this thread.
Some people are so enamored of this mediocre photographer with the one style of retouching that it's passed laughable and gotten sad.
Others think he and his style are just a sign of the times, kinda like torture porn-it doesn't have to be good or artistic or rely on any of the rules that made Hitchock great cinema, just show lots of gore and the kids will buy it. Same thing, only not gore-grunge.
When a dave hill is posted here nobody raises an eyebrow, and when they realize it was a dave hill they say "oh well, that wasn't a good dave hill he was just messin around there"
BTW Cyberek, Gerry posted almost exactly the same comment when I posted a DAVE HILL, so if that's the look you want keep going you must be close.
If we look for some merit it's gotta be people like morpheus who are getting lot's of practice (and becoming quite good in his case) at d&b.
Oh and about the tecnique... survey says lots and lots of lights and lots and lots of d&B.
Of course as always, just my opinion I could be wrong.
Ahhh...I'm still excited about how the thread is going...From start to end sometime in the future...

When posting probably excact same comment on your pictures doesn't mean that you are close! The "lucis art look" isn't very good!


SKYDOG: Learned alot trough reading and spending time experimenting with lights...I think that lights has some part in it...Post pro even more...This is what I try to think about when I'm starting to shoot...But I', not trying to copy DH, but to learn a small percantage of his workflow and combine it with other techniques could get interesting also...

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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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When posting probably excact same comment on your pictures doesn't mean that you are close! The "lucis art look" isn't very good!
Gerry
I - posted - a - dave- hill - picture - and - you -said - it - was - very - lucas - art - so - if - you - say - the - same - about - his - effort - then - he - must - be - doing - o - k.

BTW glad you have a sence of humor.
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Old 05-31-2008, 04:32 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Mtmm is a perfect example of how these threads usually go..
These guys ask for help help and then when they need to give a little help, they disappear... Or post a bunch of their pictures they have done...

No body had asked about lighting etc..
The post steps is what we are looking to learn more about so we can apply it to our/your own style of shooting....
I get basically your same effect using Lucis on several lower opacity layers then erasing where I do not want it which is usually the skins.
You can blur it a little and take the reds and ranges out a bit to get rid of that Harsh Lucis skin people get.
Or you can go about the Lightroom Scott Kelby tutorial.
Would be nice to see if Mtmm would post some of his basic steps to see if they are any different from others advices?
Snook
If you get the same effect with lucis art, then what is the problem? Go for it! Just Lucis and thats it.
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:18 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

This is a retouching forum. If you need help I thing you should go under the image help forum, If you will like a tutorial on a technique it should go under the tutorial forum. I don't thing you should get upset if a member those not want to share is technique. The most we can do is look at all the different techniques around. like Mr Ant say "SEE".

Just my half cent.
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