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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 05-31-2008, 08:51 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

sorry it's think instead of thing
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:05 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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If you get the same effect with lucis art, then what is the problem? Go for it! Just Lucis and thats it.
I am fine with what I have learned here and I actually think the technique is really old.
I actually like the way Jim Ficus does even better and kind of pioneered the technique.
As was standing up for the many others that want to learn as well.
Also I basically sick of people like you just trying to a smart ass and show off your work instead of trying an help people out.
Mtmm is jut a perfect example of forum trolls.
Just an opinion. I could care a less about trying to copy Dave Hill.
He a one man look and it is already boring. I actually only ever thought he has copied Ficus and Jill greenberg.

Like it was mentioned here in a previos post.
Take away dave's effect and his pictures and Lighting technique have NO impact.
For Dave is not here to defend himself so I will not further bash him.
Because I do believe he is talented but with his one look look...:+}
Anyways Mtmm just goes to show what type of person your are...:+]
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:24 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

don't forget Gary Land
http://www.garylandphotography.com/
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:39 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Don't forget what about gary..?
That he to need to know the processing?
His pictures look nothing like Dave Hill's and are actually pretty weak.
Maybe with a Dave Hill tweak his pictures would be more interesting...?
Is that what you meant, Gary also wants to know the technique?
There are lot's who would love to know..
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Old 05-31-2008, 09:49 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Was not comparing is photos to Dave hill's i just think he have better composition.
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Old 05-31-2008, 12:51 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

I have read Snooks posts for quite some time now. Basically he, like Gerry and myself are trying to learn techniques...not to copy, but to improve our knowledge base. Like Snook said, most post their shots to say "look at me ...see how good I am" but never explain a damn thing when asked. I also agree with Snook concerning Jim Fiscus...I like his work much better than Dave Hill. But regardless, Hill, Fiscus, and others do start with the right lights.
Give me a break about Ant..add him to the list that basically ads nothing more than self promotion.
Two side comments,
1) Does anyone know who created the stills in the beginning of the IronMan movie?
2) How much did they pay to put the "high end retouching video" ad on this site? Only one of the photos in the ad is actually used in the video. The video is basic photoshop...nothing high end and OVERPRICED. But a great job at marketing!
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

actually I do not understand why we are talking about dave hill anymore. in the beginning it was as a challenge for us but not anymore(for me it is still). what do you think about pictures taken by mtmm. I think he has found the theqnigue which is similar as as dave hill.
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Old 05-31-2008, 02:35 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

mtmm photos are similar to DH. It's a shame that he is not posting his photos to share his techique but to show what can be done and that Hills technique can be mimic
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Old 05-31-2008, 06:27 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

My first try on the Dave hill look:
http://img78.imageshack.us/img78/1157/davezw2.jpg

http://img261.imageshack.us/img261/8208/dave2dl2.jpg

I used the lucis filter, corrected color and then a toned filter.
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Old 05-31-2008, 08:07 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

moo, that is where lucis is the worst.. the blotchy orange skin tones.
Try putting it on a Luminosity blend mode and it helps a little..:}
Lucis works great but fails on the skin.
That is what is missing really.. how to get it even out on the skin tones...
I get similar by doing it on many layers and lower the opacity and working the skin...
The backgrounds is easy to get with Lucis...
Snook
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