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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 05-31-2008, 08:19 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Snook thx a lot, that seems to fix a lot of the skin.
Here my second attempt.

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Old 06-01-2008, 08:37 AM
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NO problem.. that is what these forums are supposedly for..:+}
Some people like Mtmm forget that...!
Losers!
Good Luck
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:46 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Can't we just forget about lucis art??? It's an easy way out, but no way you can use this on a pro level...I've seen to many attempts that just looks too artifical...Dave Hill and FIscus DON'T use it! DH mentioned Lucis art a while back, but to me it seems he only did this to give people an easy way towards his style!
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Old 06-01-2008, 03:58 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Hi, I'm Dave Hill, thanks for all the compliments. I use a ring light with one soft box and sometimes an umbrella. All the post is outsourced to some guy in India (he's real good isn't he?) Anyway all of the post is done with Lucas Art I think, I'm not really sure.
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:19 PM
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Hi, I'm Dave Hill, thanks for all the compliments. I use a ring light with one soft box and sometimes an umbrella. All the post is outsourced to some guy in India (he's real good isn't he?) Anyway all of the post is done with Lucas Art I think, I'm not really sure.
thx for the insights, dave.

i love you
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Old 06-01-2008, 04:25 PM
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thx for the insights, dave.

i love you
You are truly welcome, I love you too.
Oh, and thanx for all the money.
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Old 06-02-2008, 07:12 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

snook305 - im wondering, why u r so nervous about Mtmm posts? He has wrote here a lot. Afair he has even post one picture and explained in details how he did get final result. But in ending... he is getting money from this style... why he should be more detailed then now? Its kind'a like Microsoft would go opensource .
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:23 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Snook, no need to get personal. You are attacking me like no other here. As I explained before, lighting and heavy D/B with skills will generate a basic foundation to Daves work. I believe I did post a raw file just to show how important lighting is. Snook you can go running your mouth calling everybody a looser, go ahead if that makes you a better retoucher. But what is for sure is that Dave uses complex lighting system. In his videos there is a raw files seen on the monitor and wow, those are good.

So please snook, stop fucking up this thread and if you want to insult, do it in private.

And then back to the point. One thing in Daves photos that makes them look like DH is the idea and composition.

You can go with lucis
You can go with hdr
You can go with bleach bypass
You can go with highpass
You can go with Color efex Pro

But you cannot go without a good lighting and composition and certainly you cannot go like snook calling everyone a looser while doing nothing productive.

And then how I do light the subject?

With these and ringflash, beauty dish, umbrellas, softboxes etc.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:45 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

So far, what we know is that lighting is very important and also as said, composition.Im not going to ask Mtmm to give us his exact tecnique, but if you can help us with some tips it would be apreciated.Or also tell us if you are using lucisart or HDR pics.

Thx and regards.
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Old 06-02-2008, 09:01 AM
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Mtmm,,, you the one digger your grave not me..:+}

Again you come in showing you lights.. what does that have to do with anything?
If you think about it , it may be a compliment...:+}
As your the only one that has come close as well as Obsilia..(sp)?
Then again you leave a post like the last one showing you lights and nothing about post?
I have been shooting for 25 years and NO light is going to give you the Post look you are getting.
Actually those who say so, look really stupid (IMHO).
Actually makes you look worse if you ask me.. becasue ONCE again you are avoiding Posting you Post.
I am not saying you should right a book. Maybe some basic steps and let the others fill in the rest....
Obviously there were about 5-6 post after mine asking you the same thing from all different members....
Also you posting it cane be....? one of 5 techniques... we all know that already!
Why don't you help a lot of people here and post some of your steps or techniques??
I really do not get why you wasted your time showing your lights?? hahaha
Snook
Also I think HDR was voted out as it is difficult to do unless you do it with the same image...?

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