The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[andyned]

I mentioned above, that were no plans for acieving this effect. All pictures were made using the existing light.
I was just testing the dodge and burn technique and is quite easy once you get the ideea.

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by andyned

I mentioned above, that were no plans for acieving this effect. All pictures were made using the existing light.
I was just testing the dodge and burn technique and is quite easy once you get the ideea.

The problem any shots techniques in this thread will show that it is to replicate or duplicate DH, if it is on another thread or own thread then it will be a different story.

It is like a male wearing a girl dress and going to a women toilet and girls college and then he says: "No, i am not a girl, i am a man", then why you do all that to show as girls?
All shots here i will imagine they want to try DH style even they stating they don't.

[andyned]

Maybe I was missuderstood.
The shots were not ment to be edited with DH effect. In lack of pictures to play with, I tryed with these to emulate Dave's style.
Is something wrong in that ?

[Tareq]

Originally Posted by andyned

Maybe I was missuderstood.
The shots were not ment to be edited with DH effect. In lack of pictures to play with, I tryed with these to emulate Dave's style.
Is something wrong in that ?

No, keep going!

[dcmcintosh79]

Just for fun....I'm throwing this one out there. Took this pic of my friend Erin last night. Kinda sorta maybe in a similar vein? :-)

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2499535...52902/sizes/o/

[sam_bond]

I have stayed away from the dave hill look for a while, but since its been a while since my last attempt, i thought i would give it another go! really liking his new stuff and i have tried to do a bit of the old with a bit of the new.

(Larger view here: http://www.sambondphoto.com/Images/rtp/test01.jpg)

lit with 3 speedlights: 2 into umbrellas for rim/backlight, 1 into ezybox 60 above centre for key. Shot against a black background then composited onto HDR. Lots of dodging and burning!

Still would like to change a few things, but as this was a test i ran out of time.

Let me know what you think and if there's anything else you want to know just ask!

[Pinto]

I like this a lot. Very nicely done!

[namphoto]

Originally Posted by sam_bond

I have stayed away from the dave hill look for a while, but since its been a while since my last attempt, i thought i would give it another go! really liking his new stuff and i have tried to do a bit of the old with a bit of the new.

(Larger view here: http://www.sambondphoto.com/Images/rtp/test01.jpg)

lit with 3 speedlights: 2 into umbrellas for rim/backlight, 1 into ezybox 60 above centre for key. Shot against a black background then composited onto HDR. Lots of dodging and burning!

Still would like to change a few things, but as this was a test i ran out of time.

Let me know what you think and if there's anything else you want to know just ask!

is that a birth control patch...?

[sam_bond]

Originally Posted by namphoto

is that a birth control patch...?

hahaha, its part of one of the lens flares! looking at it again it does look a bit strange!

[namphoto]

hahahahahah, that's really funny. good job besides that.

this is a composite right? because the in the subject you were apparently shooting upwards but it feels like you shot the background with a wider lens and the perspective feels off.

[sam_bond]

Originally Posted by namphoto

hahahahahah, that's really funny. good job besides that.

this is a composite right? because the in the subject you were apparently shooting upwards but it feels like you shot the background with a wider lens and the perspective feels off.

your absolutely right, this is a composite, and the lenses and perspective are different! This is a test, and I shot the background ages ago with an 18mm and the model witha 35mm. The angle is different for both pictures, and hopefully in the next week I'm going out to shoot some new backgrounds with a matching lens and angle.

[mikedimples]

Beautiful shot Sam, but I don't like how you placed the model directly in the center of the shot, splitting the focus down the middle creating two equal-in-importance sides which battle the eye for attention. My eye goes to the model first, then zig-zags back and forth between the two sides while I'm trying to figure out which to look at first.

I think it would be more pleasing to look at with the rule of thirds applied to the model, besides that I love everything about it.

[andyned]

Nikon D700 + Nikkor 50mm 1.4 G + SB900 in slave mode with umbrella on to the right. Behind the model was a greenish "flood" light. Dodging and burning and some hue / desaturation, levels on some areas.

Pic

Making Of

[secretagents]

Entertaining thread, I 've just read it all

[egnoc]

i give try and remove 'birth control patch' ehhee
sorry if annoying - check attached file...

[longside1]

oops, double post...

[Adam Bartas]

I cant believe you people are still at it :-) jesus, I was like 21 when it started ) give the man some peace :o)

[Pinto]

Originally Posted by Adam Bartas

I cant believe you people are still at it :-) jesus, I was like 21 when it started ) give the man some peace :o)

Some of us find it valuable. If you don't want to follow it, then un-subscribe.

Why would someone complain about a thread but continue to support it by posting to it. Something wrong somewhere.

[troco74]

hello everybody! im new around, and i wanna join your little chat about Dave Hill look.

the key of the look is the ilumination, you cant get the the color and the texture in some pics, because the ringflash and the lighting set up, do a big part of the job.


i wanna show you a some pics i made inspired in the hill look, but i put my own hand on it,

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41239371@N05/3799551815/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41239371@N05/3799549745/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41239371@N05/3931071270/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41239371@N05/3927652997/

http://www.flickr.com/photos/41239371@N05/3800429246/

PD: calvin hollywood, your work is awesome, share your knowledge with dodge and burn! and lighting set ups, you use softboxes? ringflashes?, your camera are nikon right? i really like your skin textures, use multiply layers? share share

[Adam Bartas]

Originally Posted by Pinto

Some of us find it valuable. If you don't want to follow it, then un-subscribe.

Why would someone complain about a thread but continue to support it by posting to it. Something wrong somewhere.

i dont quite agree that you support anyone by commenting, people would have to keep quiet for most of the time my whole simple point was that in the past like six years each time i visit this site every couple of months, it seems to be full of imitated attempts at crying babies shot against a light blue background and hiphop night street composites, the occult, the look, hundreds of pages, hundreds of threads, people who just seem to regret for years they didnt come up with it first? ;o) there are so many fresh new things out there nobody seems to mention here EVER, nick meek, ilario magali, carioca, mert and marcus, chen man er, whatever, arent you people curious at all? :o) no flame intended, so, back to work, keep the dream alive :o)

[Calvinhollywood]

@Troco
Thanks for your informations about the Dave Hill Style but your pictures are not looking like Dave Hill.
But your pictures you interesting... so dont worry:-)

I shared my techniques on two webinars in the last two months and will do some other webinars. No Problems.
You can find the information when i do another one on my blog
http://www.calvinhollywood-blog.com

But dont expect to much.... i dont have secret techniques.
I use many many techniques in lighning and ps.
I cant explain all what i do in one hour or in a post here.

And i am sure Dave Hill cant explain his style here or anywhere else in some minutes or hours too.

By the way... Adam Bartas is absolutly right with some of his words.

lg Calvin

[troco74]

Hello calvin, thats right! dont look like dave at all, but are inspired in that kind of look, i dont wanna copy, i wanna find my own way to catch the soul of a shot, but i know that i can get that look if i had the correct lighting set up, this is the key.

i will try to take a picture in the next days and show you what im talking about.

the ring flash do the skintone, and the rim lights help to separate the models from the backgrounds, dave use 4 or 5 lights in his set ups, another important thing is the outdoors, when you do the shot outside, the sunlight help you to get the right postpro.

here is another photographer that REALLY get the look :P (i think theyre friends haha)
http://www.calebkuhl.com/portfolio/Gallery_1

i hope that this few tips help us!
keep in touch!

[Czarusek]

my result in pursuit of you
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/9849/9copyd.jpg

[TimeActor]

Thats looking good!
Can you talk about your post processing?

Cheers
TimeActor

[sam_bond]

Here is a before/after from my latest shoot:

http://www.sambondphoto.com/files/BeforeAfter.jpg

1x Nikon SB900 into 46" umbrella, camera left
1x Metz 48-AF behind band.

Shot with a Nikon D300. Coloured in Lightroom, Very minimal dodging and burning in Photoshop.

It's all about the lighting!

Any questions?

[longside1]

Nice work Sam, completely agree re: the lighting. Whilst i like this shot, by virtue of the minimal D n B I think the image lack some of the pop that D H achieves.

Also, some of the global corrections have seem to have lost quite a bit of detail in the subjects clothing, i.e. teh bodies look very dark, although this could have been intended?

[RichardWood]

I use channels basically. Contrasting certain colours and overlaying them. Plus sharpening for a dave hillish look. Some more can be seen at
http://www.commercialphotographer.co.nz

[longside1]

Richard, are you able to provide a more detailed workflow?

[RichardWood]

bit of info here http://advancedphotoshop.co.uk/podcasts.php under Richard Wood
Otherwise, its lengthy and complicated. I will in the short future place a downloadable tutorial of some sort on my website. Private message me you details and I can let you know when I've done it. Workflow hard to summerise but can assure you its not about Lucis Art, HDR or overdone layers and layers of over sharpening or highpasses etc. Tis more local adjustments rather than global. In a nutshell, its about colour levels as burning adjustments (channels I guess in a way) smoothing(blurring), dodging and burning. And series and series of different layer overlaysmultiplies/softlights etc of sorts The www.commercialphotographer.co.nz is a small sample. You'll find more at www.richardwood.co.nz but its a real different mix of all sorts in there and really needs a tidy up.
Keep bugging me and I'll get a prop tut done

[manzneri]

*Bug*