Photo Retouching - - The demystification of dave hill! let's all help! - Page 71

Ich.Mario · #**1051** 08-31-2008, 04:04 PM

and it took some time...

snook305 · #**1052** 08-31-2008, 04:06 PM

Nice Work Ich.MArio...
And thanks for Telling how you did it...
I like the Sharp Look you got going there..
Very nice, keep up the good work!!
Snook

Ich.Mario · #**1053** 08-31-2008, 04:10 PM

thanks.
and both of you, snook and mtmm: what ever there was in the past, get over it. so much war and cry in the world. this forum is so productive - let us keep it this way!

Ich.Mario · #**1054** 08-31-2008, 04:40 PM

important: light!

main: beauty dish
fill: ringflash

no light -> no highlight

longside1 · #**1055** 09-01-2008, 02:51 AM

I'm glad this thread has finally started to move onto light!...btw Ich.Mario, great shot and thanks for sharing your workflow!

I asked a question earlier re: lighting setup and am still unsure rregarding something (largely a result of my lighting inexperience).

After looking at all of Dave's video's I notice that he uses lights positioned very high in relationion to the subject, aiming down at the subjects head. Is the purpose of these lights just to create specular highlights on the subject?

Thanks for the help fellas!

cli · #**1056** 09-01-2008, 03:37 AM

yeah i think so, decisely the property of creating specular highlight is a material property so the skin hitted by light at a narrow angle likely creates specular highlights instead of diffuse one i guess that the purpose of Hill using light very high is too illuminate all the side long the boby and controll the shadow fall.

sorry my english

MacBurg · #**1057** 09-01-2008, 03:37 AM

If your rear kicker lights aren't placed high enough, a shadow gets cast from the shoulder over the lower half of the face. If not placed high enough it kinda looks odd as there are nice highlights all around the subject, except for the lower sides of the subjects face.

longside1 · #**1058** 09-01-2008, 03:41 AM

Cli, thanks for taking the time to respond, and don't worry about your english, I understood your message perfectly!

@MacBurg, your explanation makes perfect sense! Many thanks! I now have four off camera flash, including a ringflash, so intend to shoot a self portrait ala Dave Hill styke later this week!

cli · #**1059** 09-01-2008, 03:49 AM

we are waiting your creation...

cyborx · #**1060** 09-01-2008, 02:53 PM

Hi guys,

What a great idea to start this thread!

Does anybody from Europe has experience with the 'white lightning' strobe heads that Dave Hill uses?
I might be purchasing these flash strobes, but I'm not sure if they can be used nicely on the 230V power net in Europe. I know there are converters available, but is anyone of you working this way?

Can I use the portable power packs too? Or 230V net only?

And does anyone know if there are any problems with using white lightning gear in combination with profoto pro ring in terms of color temperature difference?

And what is recommended if you do portraits of 1/2/3/4 people, to buy 2x 1600W and 2x 800W?
Or just buy 1600W for all 4 heads?

Thank you very much for helping me towards my next step!

Ich.Mario · #**1061** 09-01-2008, 02:58 PM

yeah. but please in antoher thread next time

i think dave himself is using a mix of white lighting strobes and a profoto ringflash! so, if you want dave-hill-results: go for it

garibaldi · #**1062** 09-01-2008, 03:02 PM

I have three white lightnings, two 1600s and one 3200 for doing regular bang around stuff when i dont want to shlep into the city and rent, I like them and the best part is, I got the three heads, an octa box, a large softbox, med softbox, grids, 13 ft stands, booms and cases for less than one profoto pack with no heads. Not to turn this into a white lightning thread tho

djslyda · #**1063** 09-01-2008, 03:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ich.Mario

yeah. but please in antoher thread next time

i think dave himself is using a mix of white lighting strobes and a profoto ringflash! so, if you want dave-hill-results: go for it

how do u know what make of ringflash he uses?

cyborx · #**1064** 09-01-2008, 03:42 PM

You can tell from the "Behind the Scenes" on dave hills website
www.davehillphoto.com

I guess he's using the soft light reflector on his proring right?
Or is it the close up reflector?

djslyda · #**1065** 09-01-2008, 04:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cyborx

You can tell from the "Behind the Scenes" on dave hills website
www.davehillphoto.com

I guess he's using the soft light reflector on his proring right?
Or is it the close up reflector?

how much would that ringflash cost, roughly?