The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

[Nezbitten]

Great work VS387 please share your work flow, if you dont no one can improve or tweak it and you will never know what could be!

[VS387]

I have the workflow as a PDF document (384Kb). Please send me an e-mail to the RS387@verizon.net and I will respond with the pdf file. I'm miles away from perfecting the work flow so I welcome any feedback from anyone who has a chance to use the work flow and make any improvements. Plus I also know there might be simpler ways to achieve the same look so any feedback from that respect is welcomed as well. Thanks for viewing.

[michaelbs]

My take on the DH technique:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/...3721108c_o.jpg
(I Know lighting is wrong but I didn't try to replicate DH when I took the picture)

C&C is more than welcome.
Thanks in advance.

[VS387]

Michaelbs very nice. . I like what you did from a process standpoint. Here's another I did the same day as the previous shot.

[philos31]

Originally Posted by michaelbs

My take on the DH technique:
http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4011/...3721108c_o.jpg
(I Know lighting is wrong but I didn't try to replicate DH when I took the picture)

C&C is more than welcome.
Thanks in advance.

I like that picture very much, care to share some PP tips?

[smanros]

Originally Posted by VS387

Michaelbs very nice. . I like what you did from a process standpoint. Here's another I did the same day as the previous shot.

Hi! VS387. Your model has very good skin. I've sent you an email request for your workflow. I'd like to try if it works on my "lesser-than-perfect" models. Thanks.

[gazhilla]

Sent an email for your PDf V387, can't waitto try it on a few images, thanks for all the work on here,
Gary

[gamedonechanged]

Unfortunately that is just using plugins. May as well bust out the star wars one if you want to go down that route.

[VS387]

Originally Posted by gazhilla

Sent an email for your PDf V387, can't waitto try it on a few images, thanks for all the work on here,
Gary

Sent you the pdf today Gary. Good luck with it.

[gazhilla]

mate you sent the mail without the pdf attached !!

[VS387]

Originally Posted by gazhilla

mate you sent the mail without the pdf attached !!

Lol. . sorry man, resent with pdf. Good luck with it!

Link to pdf Tutorial below

http://www.4shared.com/file/25560757...to_includ.html

[Erppa]

I really think that Vertion is onto something there! Cant wait for the tutorial.

[jamesbateman]

Hey guys, I have been looking at his behind the scenes videos and it makes a helluva difference to demystifying it

I know that it's 'Retouch Pro' not 'Lighting Pro' but... anyone that makes a point of starting with the light is onto something for sure. His videos almost reveal everything you need to know, because as far as retouching goes, the light is half the battle to begin with.

Here is something I tried recently after watching his videos:

Composite

and:

On location

The composite was my first attempt at this style actually and the second was shot on location with similar lighting.

It's a three light set-up but as far as retouching goes, the backgrounds were processed differently to the subject. The composite bg came from a single raw file with a little bit of blending mode and fill light techniques that Calvin Hollywood teaches on Youtube (awesome video) and the subject looked pretty damn close except for D&B.

The second image had a similar fill light/overlay blending technique used, but the colours were changed using a simple mask to ensure complete control. The subject here is the most interesting thing when it comes to the 'Hill Look' because although the processing is IMO wrong for this image, I got to practice retouching the skin with D&B after the fill light/overlay blending.

I think those steps really need some hard work and a long process of trial and error, but it feels like one step closer to discovering something really awesome! (eventually haha)

Hope it helps a little bit too

[VS387]

Awesome shots James. Very nice!

[gazhilla]

My first attempts using Rene's pdf tutorial

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4533476...n/photostream/

[superkoax]

Hello, to all people who have suffered trough the looooooooooong journey reading the demystification of dave hill thread!
First of all I want to apologize! It was NEVER in my intention that this thread will get this big and really drown in all the replies! Many people have sent in their ideas,pictures, tips and tricks...THANK YOU for that. I haven't been here for a while, I was shocked to see how many people have viewed and replied this...

Hopefully people get their answers on some of the questions they have regarding the DH technique...

Good luck to all who read page 1 trough 74 :P

Gerry

[VS387]

Originally Posted by gazhilla

My first attempts using Rene's pdf tutorial

http://www.flickr.com/photos/4533476...n/photostream/

Interesting first pass gahzilla. Was this with or without the hdr step?

[gazhilla]

with the hdr step, just had another go on a similar image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45334762@N08/4495302890/

added a high pass sharpen at the end masking the skin
wicked tutorial and makes so much sense , thanks Rene

[VS387]

Originally Posted by gazhilla

with the hdr step, just had another go on a similar image

http://www.flickr.com/photos/45334762@N08/4495302890/

added a high pass sharpen at the end masking the skin
wicked tutorial and makes so much sense , thanks Rene

Glad you can use it as a baseline for experimentation. There's much flexibility in the sequence of steps. Great first pass shots. Keep up the great work!

[VS387]

Experimenting a bit deeper with the luminosity masking techniques. .

[anakngpasig]

my attempt i've added the original photo for comparison

[Isedo]

Originally Posted by VS387

Experimenting a bit deeper with the luminosity masking techniques. .

Very nice result man!
Can u explain your luminosity masking technique please?

Have a nice day,
Martin

[VS387]

Hello martin

This is the same luminosity masking technique listed in the tutorial I posted on page 74. See link below

http://www.4shared.com/file/25560757...to_includ.html

[Isedo]

Originally Posted by VS387

Hello martin

This is the same luminosity masking technique listed in the tutorial I posted on page 74. See link below

http://www.4shared.com/file/25560757...to_includ.html

Many thanks my friend!

[gazhilla]

another attempt from me using 'the PDF'

[VS387]

Originally Posted by gazhilla

another attempt from me using 'the PDF'

Very nice! Thanks for sharing the results. it's interesting to see the variations in final processed looks. You tweaking the process much?

[gazhilla]

for speed I ran a portraiture plug in at medium strength to oversmooth the skin first. Also I prefer to add the vignette after the HDR step. Each image takes just a little tweaking. Its a picture of the Mrs done as a glamour pastiche and she loves it...

[columbian.pure]

What up everyone!?
Such a gnarly thread goin down right now.
I cant not participate this is too much fun!
I did this one last night using all dodging and burning, then some high pass filters.
Totally took it too far, but its a start!

much love

after

http://www.alexbondphoto.com/wp-cont.../DSC_03961.jpg

Here is the before, wish I had some good glass to shoot through, kit lenses are retardedly soft.

http://www.alexbondphoto.com/wp-cont...396_before.jpg

[Overdoze]

I dont know if anyone noticed before? or linked..
DigitalSLR magazine had a interview about dave hill, and magazine had the treasure hunter psd with it.
http://www.digitalslrphoto.com/Back_...010_issue.html

[michaelbs]

Overdoze:
I can't find anything about the DH interview from your link..?