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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 06-15-2008, 07:13 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Ha, you said "down hill" that's funny.
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Old 06-16-2008, 04:33 PM
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here is a picture you can work with...not the best of pictures, but hey...just trying to give something back for the people who want to practice DB...

I will find a website were I can upload the raw file to so you can download it...
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:18 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Here is a setup without a ringflash filling. And lower is a retouched one. I have used "select color range" for a while now, but now I found a cool way to use it with a multiply blend for skin manipulation.

http://www.bodynet.fi/kuvat/rpro.jpg
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Old 06-17-2008, 04:43 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Here is a setup without a ringflash filling. And lower is a retouched one. I have used "select color range" for a while now, but now I found a cool way to use it with a multiply blend for skin manipulation.

http://www.bodynet.fi/kuvat/rpro.jpg
So, how is that method put into use?
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Old 06-17-2008, 05:23 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Actually i got to study more on that. So false alarm, sorry.
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Old 06-17-2008, 06:21 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Mtmm nice shot.

but your link doesn't work anymore.

Any chance we can get some info on your post-processign?
I saw that you applied it to both picture. can we see a before process?
Do you achieve this look with lightroom by changing some of the numbers on the Scott Kelby Tutorial?
Do you use just a bit of the Lucis Art?

I would love to know!

Can you give Us something......Anything......Please.
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Old 06-18-2008, 12:10 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

If youre wondering about Mtmm's "select color range" method, what you do is to add a final touch of highlights, you go to select color range, select the whitest point on the subject and bring the fuzziness down so that the color range is limited only to the areas you want to be highlighted, press okay. with your selection, create a new layer, feather the selection a little bit and then fill the area with white and select your choice of blending mode, usually softlight or overlay, then use opacity to decrease amount of highlights.
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Old 06-18-2008, 01:17 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

http://rapidshare.com/files/123251034/raaw.tif.html

My try.

1) Extract the luminosity from the channel palette. This would result in a BW image. For this I decided to use the R-Channel. You can even use the G channel if you wish. If you look at the B-channel, things are getting muted and muddy (there isn't contrast).

2) To this extracted R-Channle luminosity, put in overlay and run a high pass at raidus = 2. (Again, this is image dependent--you'll just to remember to make the edges pop subtlely.)

3) Click OK. Use the eyeball to see the effects of it. Another is to extract the B-channel luminosity in put on luminosity blending and run your USM at 50,30,0. Again, this will make those edges pop out.

4) close all the layers by pressing your eyeball and using your BG, copy the B-channel and run a "Find Edges Filter" on the duplicated B-Channel copy. You are making an edge mask here.

5) CTRL Click that edge mask and load it onto the R-Channel that you ran your HP settings.

6) Sharpen that R-Channel extract layer by using USM, 500% and R=0.2-0.3

7) Use your color picker took to select the highest pixels, I sampled mine from the face and set this to the foreground color.

8) I then went to Select, color range, and drag the fuzz until only the highlights on the skin are selected.

9) With the marching ants on the highlights already, add a color fill adj. layer and select 255,255,255 as your fill color.

10) Go into the mask and do a 1-2 Gaussian Blur filter to sort of smooth out the highlight.
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Old 06-18-2008, 03:53 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

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Mtmm nice shot.

but your link doesn't work anymore.

Any chance we can get some info on your post-processign?
I saw that you applied it to both picture. can we see a before process?
Do you achieve this look with lightroom by changing some of the numbers on the Scott Kelby Tutorial?
Do you use just a bit of the Lucis Art?

I would love to know!

Can you give Us something......Anything......Please.
Scott Kelbys lightroom tutorial is a fail. It does not work on humans, it generates terrible halos. But I believe that Scott was doing a tutorial for background shots.

I can say, that mastering and controlling a tonal contrast(low, mid, high) is the key for finishing photos. Before that it´s lots and lots of lights, d/b and layer blendings. But in the end, lighting is what rules. Skin tones and textures are still a mystery to me.

Selecting color range with white and sometimes with blacks is a neat way to ad some cool effect to photo. But you must be carefull, do it just a bit, so that it´s not so visible.

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Old 06-18-2008, 11:04 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Thank's for giving us something =;+)

I find this guy http://www.flickr.com/photos/7401855@N08/page2/ and he say's he acheive this almost 90 to a 100% with lightroom. I love the treatment. Wonder what is setting's are? It's not Dave Hill but he defently has a nice flavor!

For the lighting part I have no probleme with it. it's quite simple when you have the right tool's and know what your doing.

My probleme is more in the post-processe of those image.

Any of you have a idea how it's done!!!!
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