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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 08-21-2007, 01:27 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

IKAGAMI: Nice, the face is a bit greyish and dead, but if you add selctive colour layer you can give the skin more color...Work in the small lines of highlights and shadows to give it more "spunk" ...


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Old 08-21-2007, 10:07 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

here's my try. i think it's more dragan, less hill though.

http://gregdalrymple.com/studies/388376_9085_after.jpg

http://gregdalrymple.com/studies/388376_9085_before.jpg

http://gregdalrymple.com/studies/388...5_half_res.zip [PSD zip 7mb]
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Old 08-22-2007, 12:19 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

I have been trying to learn his technique for quite a while now, and I still can't figure it out. No matter what I do, they always come out a little on the flat side. That being said, here is a photo I just worked on...Not close to Mr.Hill's level of excellence, but not too shabby. I have also used the same technique in another photo I have posted on here somewhere, but I tweeked the effect so it is less noticeable.

Here's the photo:
http://daniellahaiephotography.com/b...background.jpg

Sorry I am hosting it off my site, as it is a rather large side by side with the original photo.

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Old 08-22-2007, 06:22 AM
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IKAGAMI: Nice, the face is a bit greyish and dead, but if you add selctive colour layer you can give the skin more color...Work in the small lines of highlights and shadows to give it more "spunk" ...


gerry
Thanx..I give it a try later
But this is how I wanted it..dead and lifeless...perfection and imperfection in one pic
For the specs..its made with a Hasselblad with leaf back
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Old 08-22-2007, 01:53 PM
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GSD: NICE touch here, but the beard on the left side should be followed trough...it's suddenly stops on the chin there...maybe more burning or copying excisting beard...also the shadows are very big...maybe work in smaller scale?

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Old 08-22-2007, 01:56 PM
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schultzy: Nice picture, I can see that you have use shadows/highlights filter here...it pushes up the noise as well...maybe on the key parts on the picture( tattoo and cheeks...) you can use the effect, but mask down areas surrounding them?

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Old 08-23-2007, 11:52 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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I have been trying to learn his technique for quite a while now, and I still can't figure it out. No matter what I do, they always come out a little on the flat side. That being said, here is a photo I just worked on...Not close to Mr.Hill's level of excellence, but not too shabby. I have also used the same technique in another photo I have posted on here somewhere, but I tweeked the effect so it is less noticeable.

Here's the photo:
http://daniellahaiephotography.com/b...background.jpg

Sorry I am hosting it off my site, as it is a rather large side by side with the original photo.
This stuff doesn't work on females. You guys shouldn't even try. High pass and sharpening don't do well with the female's skin. And when you sharpen something,mask itout to avoid halos.

Dodge and burn it all you need.here a 2 minute example

http://img250.imageshack.us/img250/4854/villageac3.jpg
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Old 08-24-2007, 07:51 AM
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This stuff doesn't work on females. You guys shouldn't even try. High pass and sharpening don't do well with the female's skin. And when you sharpen something,mask itout to avoid halos.
I agree in principle with this, but you hit on a much more critical issue without realizing it. Those halos indicate that, recipe specs notwithstanding, for this image, the settings are inappropriate. Sharpening, however it's done, is always welcome, and using sharpening to provide contrast-inducing halos is also a useful technique (Margulis calls it HIRALOAM for hi radius low amount sharpening; it's also called local contrast in some articles). Here, it's just wrong. Who cares how it got there, it's a bad result. That's my problem with Action oriented approaches to any effect: every image is different. In this case, all you need to do is step back and look at the dirty grunge and compare it with anything by Dave Hill and you know you took a wrong turn.
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Old 08-24-2007, 09:02 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

i want to try it too ^^

http://img529.imageshack.us/my.php?image=hilltrytj1.jpg
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Old 08-30-2007, 09:39 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

Does anyone know how to edit like this? I am looking for a tutorial. I know for a fact lucisart or any thirdparty plugin isn't involved, just Photoshop. HELP!

http://www.adambartas.com/
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