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The demystification of dave hill! let's all help!

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Old 07-24-2008, 06:39 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Don, one can purchase the new FocalPoint on its own without re-buying the whole suite. It's an individual product.
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:28 AM
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Don, one can purchase the new FocalPoint on its own without re-buying the whole suite. It's an individual product.
Seriously, do you need 159 dollars to get your photos look like shit? Camoon, please go away with your ads.

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Mtmm: true, true .
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:40 AM
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Mtmm: true, true .
lol, I totally agree, my experience with such plugins is that they seriously undermine the quality of a photo, even if used in tiny increments.

If your going to go through all the hassle of slowly building up an image using that $hit then why not use that time to proerly d & b your shot.

Try it, you might actually be impressed with the results!
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Old 07-25-2008, 08:55 AM
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lol, I totally agree, my experience with such plugins is that they seriously undermine the quality of a photo, even if used in tiny increments.

If your going to go through all the hassle of slowly building up an image using that $hit then why not use that time to proerly d & b your shot.

Try it, you might actually be impressed with the results!
The whole concept behind plug-ins is simply to quickly add a look or element to work that you have to get done with a minimum effort. If the customer is happy. . . . . . . .
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:02 AM
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The whole concept behind plug-ins is simply to quickly add a look or element to work that you have to get done with a minimum effort. If the customer is happy. . . . . . . .
I agree with regards the speed, plugins are quicker to use, but the point of this thread is to try and work out the Dave Hill effect.

We know it's down to lighting, and some PP. However, Dave Himself has stated that he does not use Lucis or any other plugin and I thinks that's quite evident from his work. I have no reason not to believe the guy.

If you can't be arsed to put the effort in then you're never going to get near DH's work.

Someone remind me again, why are we even discussing over priced plugins?
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Old 07-25-2008, 09:44 AM
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I agree with regards the speed, plugins are quicker to use, but the point of this thread is to try and work out the Dave Hill effect.

We know it's down to lighting, and some PP. However, Dave Himself has stated that he does not use Lucis or any other plugin and I thinks that's quite evident from his work. I have no reason not to believe the guy.

If you can't be arsed to put the effort in then you're never going to get near DH's work.

Someone remind me again, why are we even discussing over priced plugins?
Sorry. I drew us off course. The diversion was because Lucis Art comes up as a plug in that can contribute to "the look".

It is easy to link from that to my rant about software business practices. Then others start talking about being lazy etc. My point is still valid in my mind, but I concur. We should stay on subject. . . . I guess.
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

Mtmm.. you back in here..
When you going to help some of these peple out ith a little insight as to how you are getting your look?
No body ever asked you for a complete layout of your work?
What are you afraid of..
No one is ever going to say , wow that looks like the Mtmm look...:+]
is that what you worried about...?
Your the only one that has come some what cose to Dave hills look in this post..
Why don't you help some people out.
Snook
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Old 07-25-2008, 10:57 AM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

My gut feel, is that it is a VERY long and slow process that starts with capture. Perhaps folks like Mtmm do not have it documented because it is so detailed and long and that is part of the hesitation. The only other reason might be that once someone gets "there". they are hesitant to share what took them a long time to develop.

I guess if that is the case, and it is based on commercial interests, that can be understood. But in those cases, I would think that they would just state it as so!

I am just interested because, I like all these various looks. I like HDR, even the halo effect at some level, Lucis Art, (I use it commercially in Portraits), the so called Dave Hill effect which for all the talk here, looks quite similar to what others have achieved.

But then, I love it all, from a Wyeth like literalism to the impressionistic!
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Old 07-25-2008, 12:29 PM
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Re: The demystification of dave hill! let's all he

From what I've gathered...

1. Excellent and surgical lighting (kickers, soft boxes, beauty dish, ring light)

2. Basic retouch/cleaning of skin and environment

3. Luminosity Masks
-see: http://goodlight.us/writing/luminosi...tymasks-1.html
-see: "Kevlar Vest Girl" speaks of this here http://www.modelmayhem.com/po.php?th...=4#post6516764

4. "Dodge and Burn" in 'soft light' or 'overlay'
-see: Amy Dresser's PSD http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...tml#post128285

5. Color Correction

There is probably a missing link... but that's what I've gathered from this monster thread.
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