Photo Retouching - - The demystification of dave hill! let's all help! - Page 91

0lBaldy · #**1351** 10-13-2008, 11:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by igot2pman

Its my own "action" that I made. I pulled together all the the ideas that worked from this thread. Its kind of hard to explain.

But if you cannot at least get your picture to the above examples, the action will not help.

If you would like you can post or send me a picture and I will do the "action" for you and send it back.

Keven, You could zip the action and post it so we could try it out and see what processes you went through to achieve the look.. There also might be some parts of the action or the entire action that may have other applications or uses..

RetouchPRO is all about sharing

igot2pman · #**1352** 10-14-2008, 02:14 AM

I understand that this site is about sharing, and I have shared my whole flow. Also, showed the best How-to of DH I have seen to date. I am all about sharing.

It's just a debate in my head about if it’s marketable. I am also worried about someone taking what I made and selling it for themselves. I am young, 22, and want to learn as well as teach (help) others.

My quick solution is to be nice, and to do the action for people as I stated earlyer.

It’s tough to make decisions like this. I know that someone with more experience can use my action to great success. The only downfall is that it only works with clean, well done images, as it will only make discolorations and noise very obvious.

I have tried it on other images and it gives things a more 3d look. I call it TOON because of DH.

I'll think about it.

igot2pman · #**1353** 10-14-2008, 02:38 AM

HelloPiccadilly,

I mask out the skin when I High pass filter. Sometimes I’ll form paths when I’m going to be using object selections often.

I posted a reduced version of the PSD cropped or the texture part below. It should help you visualize how to do the texturing as well as some insight on how I edited the picture.

http://www.megaupload.com/?d=D551PZQD
(See attached image for instructions on the DL, the code may change)

I also re-edited the picture, GF said the hair looked funny so I did some changes, copied original hair and pasted into new picture (then slight sharpening).

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2293339...41043/sizes/o/

Good luck

snook305 · #**1354** 10-14-2008, 06:36 AM

igot2, hate to bust your action bubble but your post processing looks nothing like dave hill.
Nice of you to try and help out but you have actually not contributed anything.
You basically summarized the thread and AGAIN talked about the lighting, which is basic 3 point/4 point lighting.
You say you shared your whole flow? What flow.
You have not mentioned anything that has not already been mentioned a thousand times.
Again your looney tooney action is useless as the only way to get this effect (properly) is good old dodging and burning and then playing with Shadows and highlights which ever way you want to.
So no more debating your action is not marketable.
Snook

vapour · #**1355** 10-14-2008, 09:47 AM

Agreed, and I don't see the purpose of taking my photograph that has already been edited and editing it more. I would appreciate it that you remove it.

0lBaldy · #**1356** 10-14-2008, 10:46 AM

Keven, Do your own thing!
I am just an Old retired fart and was not thinking about marketability.. if you can keep your secrets and develop a "LucisArt" like plug-in and keep it out of the hands of the 'Pirates' while getting rich.. then more power to you!

igot2pman · #**1357** 10-14-2008, 01:16 PM

Vapour,

Sorry if i offened you, it was ment as more of a complement as it was good. If you did not knowtis, your picture specificly only changed the background. Your editing was very good, and I could only hope to become up to your level.

The image was removed, as per your request.

Snook305,

I was wandering when you would comment. You are right, it was a summery; something some people need as it takes a week to read.

You do not need to like my editing, I wouldnt expect you to think I am on your level. I have only been doing this for 8 months or so. I took what I learned from DH and used it to my own photo/style. I desclamed that I am not good at D&B and could improve. I am by no means the best here.

I'll try and shoot a DH photo soon just to show you, I just do not have enough flashes but I'll figure it out.

OlBaldy,

I understand you and many of the people here would not use it for selling, but im sure their is someone out their getting paid to look therough all these threads for ideas and consumer trends.

Just give me a while and I will figure it out.

vapour · #**1358** 10-14-2008, 02:20 PM

hey man not a big deal, everyone has to start somewhere and I think posting here for some critique is cool... just try and do it to a photo of your own and I think you will take more ownership to it.

for dodge and burn you just really have to study the human figure and how light and shadow fall and fall off and just enhance what isn't there to create a more dynamic range.

igot2pman · #**1359** 10-14-2008, 03:58 PM

I know what and how to do things, but do not know the human figure. I am an accounting major and that has nothing to do with it. I need to find a model or substitute to to practice on. But its worth it, to take things to the next level.

I am taking cue's from makeup artiest on where they would put the highlights and darkeners. I just haven't had time to study, and put it all together.

This is why I like photography, you have to know a little of everything to get it right.

HelloPiccadilly · #**1360** 10-15-2008, 03:50 PM

Does anyone have links in your 'favorites' with light setup described there?
I remember some of them was posted by Mtmm..
I tryed to find, but useless..((
also picture with rugby player on strobist?
I'm gonna go to the stuido for experiments))

(sorry for such a bad english)
^)

igot2pman · #**1361** 10-15-2008, 11:21 PM

Here is the stobist one, i'll try and find more later.

http://strobist.blogspot.com/2008/07...ing-um-no.html

HelloPiccadilly · #**1362** 10-17-2008, 01:33 AM

nice of u, thx)

HelloPiccadilly · #**1363** 10-20-2008, 07:27 AM

This one is next try:
http://img243.imageshack.us/img243/1066/testle6.jpg
any questions if u want

islade · #**1364** 10-22-2008, 04:21 AM

Hi guys, I have this a quick try at home in my garage.
I'd love to know what you guys think.

I'm posting this because i would love some hints and tips on how to get closer to this look, so be brutally honest

snook305 · #**1365** 10-22-2008, 07:42 AM

One quick helpful hint would be to get those Kicker lights from the side back behind you more b/c they are making an awful, shadow on your nose...

Snook