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09-17-2007, 03:03 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Edgework: Thank you so much...I'm working on a new part of the face...the shadow and the color...so if you would be ready for a new edititon within 24 hours I would be happy
CHeers
gerry | 
09-17-2007, 05:17 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Don't take all of the strays out. And you need to fix the broken hilite in the forehead.
Not bad
Chris | 
09-17-2007, 05:38 PM
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| | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Quote:
Originally Posted by pixel_monkey It’s never easy to swallow when you think that you’ve created a masterpiece and someone comes along and points out all the faults that you need to improve upon. It might sound absurd, but a good part of the learning process of being an artist is to learn how to handle criticisms. I’d rather have my work critiqued, and perhaps, ripped apart by an industry professional than getting a pat on the shoulder by my family and friends. Your skills will eventually stop improving if there’s no one there to challenge you and you will fall behind. | Yes I think that's true, no matter how much the sting feels, when our work is critiqued by a industry pro. The work might be torn to bits by a working pro, but that might be a new beginning for the "up and comer."
We may show our latest work to our friends and they say, "oh, how nice, you do such fine work, keep at it." But take your book to LA or NYC, pound the pavement, and if you even get a 5 minute meeting with a top AD or photo editor in a retouching house, you'll know real fast if the look is pro level enough to get a job.
But I do believe in constructive criticism from reliable sources, someone who inspires and might give you a tip or 2 for things to fix and watch out for. I got a real master photographer in LA that gave me an hour meeting and critiqued my work. He showed me what he liked, what he didn't and what to look out for. Since that meeting, I literally changed everything and every way I shoot. And he was right about it all. After I look back on what I did then and what I have done since, I took a totally different path in lighting, retouching, everything in my workflow.He gave me some time and it meant a lot he would even to take the time to meet a complete unknown stranger like me, but what guidance he gave me.
Then again, it's best to be a bit discerning who we ask and if we respect their opinion and if they are putting your work down just to be mean and see what guts you have and if what they say is enough to discourage you from even moving forward. I don't mean you personally, all of us though.
I think the forum here is a good place to get some feedback on the work and tips to improve, experiment, and see what others might see that we don't.
JM2$ steve | 
09-17-2007, 05:53 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video here we go again....a new edition from the last retouch I got...Thanks so much from EDGEWORK that came with good pointer for me to follow...I feel I have covered all his point to some degree here...any suggestions?
the picture you see here now is the last retouch and the totally new retouch! please read edgeworks pointers earlier in this thread to to see what it's all about...
cheers
Gerry | 
09-18-2007, 01:46 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Quote:
Originally Posted by cricket1961 Don't take all of the strays out. And you need to fix the broken hilite in the forehead.
Not bad
Chris | thank you all for the comments. ill work on the bulging eye and strays.
chris u mean the broken shape of the highlight ?(ie not round shaped)
im worried im having trouble spoting it out :-/
what u guys think of the sharpening ? i did a high pass on eyes/mouth /brows/hair.
still wondering if i should do an unsharp mask. im missing something there... | 
09-18-2007, 02:10 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Yes I agree, face would look softer if you take out the freeze of the hair. | 
09-18-2007, 04:43 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Going over the chris tarantinos site, I noticed how subtile everything is done.
Keeping that in mind, I did this one.
No blurring, no sharpening. | 
09-18-2007, 09:31 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Quote:
Originally Posted by cainam Going over the chris tarantinos site, I noticed how subtile everything is done.
Keeping that in mind, I did this one.
No blurring, no sharpening. |
nice retouching, skin just a bit yellow in areas. | 
09-18-2007, 05:44 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Quote:
Originally Posted by KR1156 nice retouching, skin just a bit yellow in areas. | Thanks for comment KR
But what would be the right procedure to remove the yellow in those areas?
Selective color?
Or should I have avoided them in the first place? | 
09-18-2007, 06:30 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video cai: If you read the post edgework wrote for my first retouch you can get a sense of what's needed to be done...your facial color has some areas ha varies in tone...under the right eye, nder the lip and the shadow areas on the left cheeck, the foreheadhas some green tones in it...i use selective color and mask to focus on the areas that's neede to be changed...
gerry | 
09-18-2007, 09:31 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video If I were you I would probably just load the blue channel as a selection, inverse the selection and adjust the yellow through hue and sat or selective color. Then I would click on the adjustment layer mask and view it to see if I needed to make it a little darker so that the move didn't hit some yesllow areas that did not need the move.
Chris Quote:
Originally Posted by cainam Thanks for comment KR
But what would be the right procedure to remove the yellow in those areas?
Selective color?
Or should I have avoided them in the first place? | | 
09-19-2007, 04:58 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Thanks again Chris & Jerry
I did some color corrections.
If not better, I''ll have to recallibrate my eyes.
Besides the color imperfections, are there still any huge flaws?
(...and now I start shaking...) | 
09-19-2007, 09:01 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video i tried chris' method with your previous image, and it gave a great fix in 10 secs.
i loaded the blue, inverted, then hue/sat adj. layer, i went to the yellows and slid the hue bar to -19.
**forgot to mention i put it in color mode so tone didn't shift.
Last edited by KR1156; 09-19-2007 at 09:44 AM.
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09-19-2007, 04:08 PM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Quote:
Originally Posted by KR1156 i tried chris' method with your previous image, and it gave a great fix in 10 secs.
i loaded the blue, inverted, then hue/sat adj. layer, i went to the yellows and slid the hue bar to -19.
**forgot to mention i put it in color mode so tone didn't shift. | Thank you all! | 
09-20-2007, 12:02 AM
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| | | Re: Skin Retouch - inspired by GodMother's video Great job!! Men this looks fabulous. I must say you guys have they eyes of ten hawks combined when it comes to looking at differences and spotting imperfections. fixing them, that's a different story all together. After reading edgework's comment, I know, I improve at least by 1 percent off the bat. With some practice, I should be making lots of people happy. Very soon. Thnx for all your hard work everyone!!!
Keep sharing,
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