RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching

Notices

Photo Retouching "Improving" photos, post-production, correction, etc.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 10-02-2007, 07:29 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
Loss of contrast when flattening Photoshop layers

Hi everyone

Why is it that when you flatten Photoshop layers the image contrast sometimes shifts a touch? I've noticed it a few times down the months, but only now has it bugged me enough to look into it more, but I can't find an answer anywhere!

Basically, the image I'm trying to flatten now is black and white, though it is in RGB mode, and I've identified that the culprit is a curves layer. Even if I just merge that one layer down into the background there is a slight, but quite noticeable in the final print, loss of contrast. I have the curves set to Luminosity blend mode, and have also tried it in Normal mode, but the result is the same.

Any ideas?

Cheers

Raymond

Last edited by Raymond Mayo; 10-02-2007 at 07:30 AM. Reason: Typo
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiReddit! Float This Post!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Share this post on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #2  
Old 10-02-2007, 07:39 AM
Doug Nelson's Avatar
Janitor
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Posts: 3,970
Blog Entries: 20
Re: Loss of contrast when flattening Photoshop layers

Have you tried printing without flattening? In that case it is still flattened, but further down the chain. It might help you determine where the workflow is interfering with your image quality.
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiReddit! Float This Post!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Share this post on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #3  
Old 10-02-2007, 08:02 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
Re: Loss of contrast when flattening Photoshop layers

Yep, I've tried that, and the image comes out fine, and as it should be. It's only when it's flattened in Photoshop that the loss of contrast appears (and more specifically when the curves layer merges into the background layer). Trouble is I want to save the file as a flattened TIFF to send out to someone, and looking as it should do!
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiReddit! Float This Post!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Share this post on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #4  
Old 10-02-2007, 08:45 AM
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Brooklyn
Posts: 316
Re: Loss of contrast when flattening Photoshop layers

Quote:
Originally Posted by Raymond Mayo View Post
Yep, I've tried that, and the image comes out fine, and as it should be. It's only when it's flattened in Photoshop that the loss of contrast appears (and more specifically when the curves layer merges into the background layer). Trouble is I want to save the file as a flattened TIFF to send out to someone, and looking as it should do!
What happens if you do merge visible to a new layer, instead of flattening.

What is the screen scaling when you do this? I've seen exactly what you're talking about, but it only happens if my screen scaling is at 25% or 33%, something that forces Photoshop to do pixel-averaging. When I scale to 100%, there's no difference, and I've never had it affect a proof.

Could you post the image?
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiReddit! Float This Post!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Share this post on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #5  
Old 10-02-2007, 08:53 AM
cricket1961's Avatar
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2005
Location: Flower Mound, Texas
Posts: 383
Blog Entries: 15
Re: Loss of contrast when flattening Photoshop layers

There used to be a visual bug(might still be).
Try viewing at 100% and flattening then. IF it changes then it is the file. If it does not then it is the visual reference only on the monitor and you don't need to worry about it.

Chris
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiReddit! Float This Post!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Share this post on Facebook
Reply With Quote
  #6  
Old 10-02-2007, 11:54 AM
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 3
Re: Loss of contrast when flattening Photoshop layers

Ok, so it does appear to be just an effect on the monitor. I just printed the image unflattened and then flattened, and the proofs are identical, even though the image appeared to change on the screen. I must have made a mistake earlier on and not printed exactly the same image, both unflattened and flattened.

Thanks for responding everyone.

Raymond
Digg this Post!Add Post to del.icio.usBookmark Post in TechnoratiReddit! Float This Post!Stumble this Post!Google Bookmark this Post!Yahoo Bookmark this Post!Live Bookmark this Post!Share this post on Facebook
Reply With Quote
Reply

Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Contrast Masking DannyRaphael Photo Compositing 14 05-08-2003 12:51 AM
Pros and Cons of P.S. 7 john_opitz Software 31 04-28-2002 07:43 PM
Julieanne Kost's Photoshop Quickstart CD set DJ Dubovsky Non-RetouchPRO Resources 9 10-07-2001 05:57 PM
Updated Photoshop Import Filter for Adobe InDesign 1.5.2 Doug Nelson Software 0 08-30-2001 10:41 PM
photoshop software Doug Nelson Photoshop Help 0 08-08-2001 12:41 PM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 02:25 PM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.7.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2008, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
Content Relevant URLs by vBSEO 3.2.0
Copyright © 2008 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved




1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 26 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 44 45 46 47 48 49 50 51