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Old 10-02-2007, 01:06 PM
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One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

Hi guys new to the forum, have read some great advice so a big thankyou,
Now a couple of questions of my own,

1, not using the degrunge method how can i go about getting rid of mottled skin and tan lines on this girl

2, where to go for good tutorials and tips, like the lyden website, i have done quite a few searches but keep coming up with the glitter guru tips

btw this picture is the original and i'm the photographer,

thanks in advanced
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:22 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

it's possible to use information from other channels, sometimes the "mottleding" may only show up in the red or cyan channels...
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Old 10-02-2007, 01:23 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

Sorry, don't quite understand, what are you suggesting? TIA
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:05 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

For the mottling of the skin I would recomend this tutorial:
http://www.dgrin.com/showthread.php?t=23233
Dan Margulis has some good tips on removing the blotchiness , his referance to ch. 16 was from his Lab color book.

As for where to look, you have me theres an overflow of tutorials with excessive bluring, degrunge being the best of the bluring techniques.

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To remove the tan lines:
You basically have to match the rgb values of the untan skin to the values of the tan skin so they match up, doing this on an adjustment layer so you can feather the mask out and adjust and tweak.

I'll give it a shot when I get back from supper later on tonight,

Hope this helps

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Old 10-02-2007, 03:41 PM
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Sorry, don't quite understand, what are you suggesting? TIA
I believe he was referring to looking through the individual color channels, Red, Green, Blue or Cyan,Magenta,Yellow,Black etc... All represented in grayscale, the lighter the shade the more red or more cyan it will have. Looking through one that didn't have any spots for example. You could then copy the section in the good channel and paste it over the bad section. This will leave it looking kind of funky, as the new piece will not match the tonality of the old. Then adjust this new section with the curves to make the grayscale tonality even.

To sum it up, you basically copy a section of good "information" and paste it over the problem spot, they look the same now only the shade is different, adjusting with levels makes the grayscale tonality match, when switched to RGB mode it will all be in color and no blotches.

Another example is a blue pen marking on a photograph scan, when looking at the channels the red and green will be free of any markings, the blue channel will have the pen marks in it...this is assuming its pure blue pen ink.

It sounds harder than it is, hopefully I didn't confuse you
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:44 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

No not at all going to try it now, thankyou, did try the digital grin, with the baby?, lol just got a hot mess am afraid
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

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To remove the tan lines:
Basically you will have to not the RGB value of the regular skin and not rgb values of the tanned skin and match them, doing this on an adjustment layer so you can feather the mask out and adjust and tweak.

Hope this helps
sorry again, not rgb??? whats that mean?
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:54 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

ok, just got it note, lol, been a long day sorry xx
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

Whoops typo

I meant:
You basically have to match the rgb values of the untan skin to the values of the tan skin so they match up.

Havent tried the Dgrin picture yet...looks like a tough one, might be kind of hard to follow dans technique if you dont have the book though.
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:08 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

Hi there

Since there are no pores to worry about why not just used a screen blur with a multiply duplicate to darken.
Simple easy and effective.

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Old 10-02-2007, 05:22 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

still doesn't get rid of the tans lines thanks though...
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Old 10-02-2007, 05:43 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

Hi there

Now I'm not sure what you are looking for...but a layer set to darken and sampling adjacent color and building with a low opacity brush will darken the lighter skin.

Maybe i am not understanding what you need.

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Old 10-02-2007, 07:05 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

i simply sampled nearby areas and painted the lighter places with a soft brush set to color mode. The painting is done on a new, transparent layer.

Is this what you had in mind?

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Old 10-02-2007, 08:26 PM
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

I'll post my try later on tomorrow, have to go to the hospital tom. morning for a checkup bright and early. Tryout the curves method and see how you like it, ive used it for sunburn victims a bunch! sometimes the edges of your mask will be too bright or dark so you might need to duplicate and clone away the junk depending on the image.
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Re: One for the pro retouchers...yes you shelby & co

Something like this?
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