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The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Old 11-01-2007, 06:51 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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PELLE: nice photos! This portray more of your style then Jill, your style is more upfront and this style fits your pictures in a nice way!

PALMS: Thanks for your words! The picture you posted is a bit blurred in the skin, but the feeling is nice!

PETER: Thanks for replying! Your picture is as same as mine, not sharp enough! i miss more highlight details here!
Sure your right, not as sharp as it could have been, but the pic I worked from was rather small so a lot of detail was lost. You need to be a member of Stock exchange to get the large original, and I'm not.

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Old 11-01-2007, 09:55 PM
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Heres my try ... or version ...
i really like this version better than jills, hopefully you'll explain some of the steps involved...
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Old 11-02-2007, 01:38 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Yes, pellepiano, can you please explain how you did your first example? How did you get that glow/sheen on the skin, it's hard to imagine that it could be done with just dodging and burning...
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Old 11-02-2007, 06:05 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

I mostly painted with white ( wacom bamboo tablet ) on a layer set to Overlay which is kind of burning. I also added a new layer with a more brown skin tone and lowered the reds in the original. Jill Greenberg has the most fantastic skintones imo, I would love to know how she does it.
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Old 11-02-2007, 08:30 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Well, if the consensus is that Greenberg starts with multiple lights to capture all the subtle contours of a face, could there possibly have been a worse image to start with, here? This is the textbook example of flat lighting.

Also, the kid's just so happy. Much more activity in the face muscles with crying babies, many more contours to capture.

That said, I tortured him into a semblance of shape and detail, though Greenberg's skin tones eluded me. They're amazingly cold, but so full of life.

http://edgework.tripod.com/samples/fauxGreenberg.jpg
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Old 11-02-2007, 11:24 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Here's my try...
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8085/12ul8.jpg
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Old 11-02-2007, 03:10 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

well, i have traveled to this wonderful forum from the great land of NAPP. It is a pleasure to see such beautiful images, especially when it involves a style I am trying to understand. A quick question...

This is the demystification...would it be possible to throw together a brief tutorial or further explaining the steps outside of burning via overlay.

Again, thank you for your time in reading this, and I hope to read again soon.

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Old 11-03-2007, 04:47 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Nice.

Yes its easier when you can control the lighting yourself. I also did some sort of Greenberg shots a while ago.
Hello,

nice work. Are you able to remember your lightning setup.
Maybe you could explain in a few words.

Greets

learza
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Old 11-03-2007, 04:57 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

As you can see on most of Jills images and the two that I did there are strong highlights at both sides of the face. So the answer is simple, its 2 backlights.

Jill also use very special frontlighting at times, like with the children, you can see three frontlights making very nice catchlights.
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Old 11-03-2007, 07:45 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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As you can see on most of Jills images and the two that I did there are strong highlights at both sides of the face. So the answer is simple, its 2 backlights.

Jill also use very special frontlighting at times, like with the children, you can see three frontlights making very nice catchlights.


Do you have a screenshot of the painting layer you used for white? that would be really helpful!

Or even better, do you have a PSD with the different layers of what you did on it? that would be EXTREMELY helpful to us all!
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