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Old 11-02-2007, 10:24 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Here's my try...
http://img210.imageshack.us/img210/8085/12ul8.jpg
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Old 11-02-2007, 02:10 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

well, i have traveled to this wonderful forum from the great land of NAPP. It is a pleasure to see such beautiful images, especially when it involves a style I am trying to understand. A quick question...

This is the demystification...would it be possible to throw together a brief tutorial or further explaining the steps outside of burning via overlay.

Again, thank you for your time in reading this, and I hope to read again soon.

Aj
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:47 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Nice.

Yes its easier when you can control the lighting yourself. I also did some sort of Greenberg shots a while ago.
Hello,

nice work. Are you able to remember your lightning setup.
Maybe you could explain in a few words.

Greets

learza
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Old 11-03-2007, 03:57 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

As you can see on most of Jills images and the two that I did there are strong highlights at both sides of the face. So the answer is simple, its 2 backlights.

Jill also use very special frontlighting at times, like with the children, you can see three frontlights making very nice catchlights.
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Old 11-03-2007, 06:45 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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As you can see on most of Jills images and the two that I did there are strong highlights at both sides of the face. So the answer is simple, its 2 backlights.

Jill also use very special frontlighting at times, like with the children, you can see three frontlights making very nice catchlights.


Do you have a screenshot of the painting layer you used for white? that would be really helpful!

Or even better, do you have a PSD with the different layers of what you did on it? that would be EXTREMELY helpful to us all!
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Old 11-04-2007, 03:28 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

The PWL layer isnt much to look at, but here it is ... ( there is a Amy Dresser .psd file somewhere on this forum, its a better source for PWL layers ).
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Old 11-04-2007, 11:52 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Nice.

Yes its easier when you can control the lighting yourself. I also did some sort of Greenberg shots a while ago.
Dude...awesome shots.
Care to elaborate on lighting setup and post-pro?

Really cool stuff.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:31 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Thanks. Strong backlights to get edge highlights. Dodge and burn with PWL to add some contrast and shine. See previous post for the PWL. And some usual cleaning up, of skin etc.
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Old 11-04-2007, 12:41 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

PELLE: Thanks for sharing your technique here! I really like it! It gives me confidence to see I'm on the "right track" when trying for my highlights as well!

Captainhook: Nice picture, the blue background is nice, but it lacks a bit of stronger highlights and a better skin color correction ...
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:24 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Hi,
I'm brand new to the forum. Is there somehwere I can find a tutorial on how one might go about trying this? I'd like to give it a shot.

Thanks so much.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:41 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Hi,
I'm brand new to the forum. Is there somehwere I can find a tutorial on how one might go about trying this? I'd like to give it a shot.

Thanks so much.
There are some good pointers right in this thread.
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Old 11-06-2007, 01:47 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Jill also many times uses a Big octoBank behind her and a Ringflash on her lens.. Pretty sure one is for fill...:+}
In any case she was on like CNN or some program like that I saw on the net and she was using this style.
2 Kicker/side lights,hairlight above and the frontal light like I explained above...:+}
Snook
PS. and of course a lot of retouching.!!
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Old 11-06-2007, 03:08 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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There are some good pointers right in this thread.

There are, and I appreciate them...but being very new to retouching, it's hard to get a sense of some of the specifics. I realize that everyone probably has their different variations to the end product. I loved pellepiano and captainhooks versions...they looked great! I'd love to read a tutorial if anyone has one or would want to write one, and of course, I'll take any hints anyone has.

Thanks!
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Old 11-06-2007, 04:14 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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There are, and I appreciate them...but being very new to retouching, it's hard to get a sense of some of the specifics. I realize that everyone probably has their different variations to the end product. I loved pellepiano and captainhooks versions...they looked great! I'd love to read a tutorial if anyone has one or would want to write one, and of course, I'll take any hints anyone has.

Thanks!
Well as it says in the original post, without proper lighting, it's pointless to even try.

But yeah after that a painting with light layer helps, as shown above.
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Old 11-06-2007, 05:25 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

I can light. I just don't know how to post process that well.
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