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The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Old 11-06-2007, 06:43 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Then half the job is done =) I suggest you look at another thread here with similar images and sharp highlights, regarding Dave Hill. There are also many threads about PWL ( Painting with Light ).
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:20 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Help me here...what is the difference between "dodge and burn" and "paint with light"?
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:30 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Dodge and Burn usually refers to the tools with the same name, while PWL is when you have a layer filled with 50% grey , set to Overlay, and paint with black or white. Both methods do the same thing but the Dodge and Burn tools have some extra choices like , only burn midtones and so on.
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Old 11-07-2007, 06:47 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Heres my try ... or version ...
Is's so cool

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Old 11-07-2007, 10:52 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

I asked this once before but never recieved an answer..hopefully this time. Like Pelle said above one can dodge and burn highlights, midtones and shadows. What does CS3 consider a highlight, midtone, and shadow? What am I doing when I burn lets say a highlight vs dodging a highlight vs a midtone?
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Old 11-07-2007, 11:02 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Dodging means you brighten the highlights,midtone or shadow, and burn is the other way around, as I understand it. I use only PWL ( unless cleaning layer masks ).
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Old 11-07-2007, 02:25 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

How's this?
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Old 11-07-2007, 04:36 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Thank you pellepiano. I appreciate it.
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Old 11-08-2007, 04:33 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

unfortunately. the lighting for this image is very flat. it does indeed help to have a very good lighting setup. lighting IS everything. but anyway here is my submission. it's a greenberg/hill mix. kind of a combination of the two.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/1...etshillse1.jpg

one thing that helps tremendously when it comes to this style is if you have a background in illustration/painting. because in order to make this effect work good you have understand how not to overdo it and at the same time not underdo it. there really isn't a magic button or action. all i simply did here was duplicate the layer and dodge and burn the hell out of it. i generally use very low exposure settings for dodging and burning and just continuously put on layer after layer. having a good understanding of light goes a long way. because especially with this image. i added shadows that were not really there or just very faint. when dodgin and burning i generally keep most of the strokes set on midtones. i rarely every use highlights and occasionally burn with shadows. hope this helps some.
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Old 11-08-2007, 05:30 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

plasticjakc: I think your version is very good! abit darke ares on the skin, but really nice overall feel! good on ya! maybe I'm wrong, but maybe a dash of yellow would help? or less magenta? hmm....that color correction is what I struggle with the most
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