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The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Old 11-15-2007, 06:09 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

SuperKoax: That Amy Dresser thing was posted on this forum ages ago, it even had one of her layered PSD files attached to it.

You can find it here:

http://www.sendspace.com/file/j3h635

It's quite good to see, however most of the skin work isn't on that PSD, so there's no cloning/healing to be viewed.
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:46 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Decided to have another go at the initial image from this thread. Or, rather, add some additional steps that I neglected first time around.

http://edgework.tripod.com/samples/fauxGreenberg2.jpg
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Old 11-15-2007, 02:02 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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I did a tutorial ages ago based on that post Sistere.

Can be found here;

Here it is.

It's been getting on average about 200 hits per day for the last 4-5 months.
Nice! Really nice tutorial! I found the quotes using 'Wayback Machine' on some defunct site; but I am thrilled to have found yours where I can actually see some of the techniques compared side by side. Excellent!

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Old 11-15-2007, 04:03 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

so she took lolypops away to make them cry, heck she should just come to my studio for one day. she would have enuff crying babies. lol. thats a first, make a baby cry instead of make them stop. lol
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Old 11-15-2007, 04:58 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Carving layer is done here:

"make a new layer, fill with 50% grey and set that layer to "overlay" and paint black or white (again, 0% hardness on the brush, 100% opacity, 1% flow) to carve down or up. This method sometimes adds more saturation to the carved shadows than i would prefer
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:37 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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so she took lolypops away to make them cry, heck she should just come to my studio for one day. she would have enuff crying babies. lol. thats a first, make a baby cry instead of make them stop. lol
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I26UhE1njFc

just see the interview there...some blogs on the net has come a looooong way to eat their way in to her patience...lawsuits against bloggers and her husband has even joined in to the fight against them...

I was really astonished by the pictures when I first saw them, back then I was wondering how she made them cry. And then people started to react and she told openly about it....NOT A GOOD IDEA! In USA, there are some very angry parents with small children

blogs from people:

http://thomashawk.com/2006/04/jill-g...woman-who.html

http://www.kantor.com/blog/2006/06/j...-child-abuser/
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Old 11-15-2007, 05:47 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

we tend to over react in the USA and this is another example of that, i think forcing your kid into beauty pageants is much worse than what Jill was doing...
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Old 11-15-2007, 06:23 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

Pixel: I probably diverted the thread towards this matter with my last post. I agree to a point where the reactions that people are stating regarding her pictures. MAKING children cry is no way to do it! maybe wait until the child is dead tired without nap time...then you have some very nice potential picture just waiting to be snapped! I think that using tricks like Jill did with the lollipop is to exploit defenseless human beings! It's not right! But to react so strong about it isn't something I would do...I think that Jill should maybe change her thoughts regarding these types of picture so she doesn't make the same mistake twice! In the interview it doesn't see that she regrets or understand her actions. Has she doen the right thing when so many people reacts so bad? Or are all other people wrong and she is right?

MANY THOUGHTS HERE
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Old 11-15-2007, 11:04 PM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

if i was jill i woulnt regret anything. you are being way too sensitive, man...that is what is wrong with the army today...too many mothers. Toughen up a little bit, so what the kids are crying, kids cry, who cares. What matters is she got a shot you will never be good enough to get, and she did it by taking candy from a baby. Maybe you can learn something from her...maybe not.
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Old 11-16-2007, 02:20 AM
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Re: The demystification of Jill Greenberg!!!

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Nice! Really nice tutorial! I found the quotes using 'Wayback Machine' on some defunct site; but I am thrilled to have found yours where I can actually see some of the techniques compared side by side. Excellent!

Damien
No problems my good man. Hope it helps you out. It certainly did with me when I wrote it.

As a side note I only maybe really use two or three of those techniques... especially the 50% grey overlay/soft light method (called 'carving' earlier)
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