Should I trust this video???

mrbeagle · #61 01-08-2008, 10:57 AM

he does have a section on d&b that's decent.

KR1156 · #62 01-08-2008, 11:02 AM

i think a vid of chris' work in action, should he do it, would be best bet for you guys, because d&b is a lot simpler than most think....it's developing you aesthetic / eye, that will be tougher, take more time than actually learning how to operate the d&b controls.

i wouldn't rely on the dvd's teaching a broad spectrum.

cricket1961 · #63 01-08-2008, 11:39 AM

I am going to definitely do it. Just a matter right now of putting together a decent enough content package and getting it done. I am sure no one wants to watch me retouch a model for 5 hours.

Thanks for the tip on Ambrosia's software Captain Hook. That is what I was leaning towards and you an others only confirmed it.

Chris

amica999 · #64 01-08-2008, 01:29 PM

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Originally Posted by cricket1961

I am sure no one wants to watch me retouch a model for 5 hours.
Chris

Don't be so sure, I wouldn't mind at all..:-)

hexi · #65 01-08-2008, 01:37 PM

I do also!

Chris

superkoax · #66 01-08-2008, 02:31 PM

RUUD: Hmmmm...sounds good! but does it taste as good as it sounds? GIVE US FEEDBACK WHEN YOU GET, RUUD! OK?

skydog · #67 01-08-2008, 05:46 PM

Ummm...I also bought the video and should get here sometime this week. I will keep an open mind, but for $157, it better have something to offer. If not, I wouldn't support any other videos he plans to produce in the future. I'll gladly pay money for a good tutorial, but to do so it must be better than what is provided by the photo shop guys. I too will let you know.

LESider · #68 01-08-2008, 06:03 PM

I attended a photoshop seminar at last years photoexpo and all I can say is that Chris offered up more info in his alloted time (which was cut short) than the other two speakers combined.

I would preorder a DVD that is still just a thought to him right now if offered.

I too ordered the DVD should be here Thurs. and as I have really come to terms with D&B, my skin retouching looks great but I'm just looking for any other tips and tricks.

As for working on one layer and being destructive, I think most of us here can figure out how to use a good technique on a different layer.

I look forward to seeing for myself but I am really looking forward to seeing what Chris has coming!

AdamZx3 · #69 01-08-2008, 06:41 PM

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I am sure no one wants to watch me retouch a model for 5 hours.

I sure would.

Just a thought, you could have "deleted scenes" of some sort so that people could watch the tut, and if they choose watch the whole process from start to finish, rather than what a lot of them do, " I'll pause the video" and when they come back its all done. Which I can inderstand because of attention span and video size (but hey DVD+R's are cheap

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I am going to definitely do it. Just a matter right now of putting together a decent enough content package and getting it done.

Thats Great! i'm glad to hear that. You can count me in on whatever tutorial you make.

One thing I would like to see Chris is more information about retouching from apply image...I have it set on my sticky notes to try and get deeper into that but from my limited expermenting I can't really "color correct" like your article in Katrin's book. It looks like a very powerfull tool that I hardly ever use. And of course problem skin retouching would be great too, as seen in the DVD talked about, retouching fairly clear skin is pretty straightfoward.

As far as the DVD, mine came in today and....

I wish the DVD had a section on skin retouching for the dark haired lady with sunglasses, she had some pretty rough skin on her upper cheek. Using the methods he teaches I could replicate his "after" picture on the psd, it just took a long time.

So far at first glance I would say I am happy with my purchase, it's not a bargain but there isn't anything else out there like this either. At $200 it's pretty steep unless your just starting out. I didn't think there would be so much primer on the tools, which for series one is ok, and if you never used them you would be lost. Perhaps he will get more advanced in the future releases. I will finish watching it tonight and leave another post either later tonight or tomorrow evening.

skydog · #70 01-08-2008, 06:52 PM

So if you were the giving stars...5 being the best...how would you rate this video?

cricket1961 · #71 01-08-2008, 08:29 PM

Thanks for your thoughts on direction Adam. I will definitely consider apply image and/or calculations to add in or as a separate dvd maybe.

Chris

KR1156 · #72 01-08-2008, 08:41 PM

calculations saved me a ton of time today. masks took 10 min, normally would have taken a lot longer with the complexity of the angles and curves of the product using the pen tool.

i also remember reading about it (chris' part) in katrins book a couple of years ago!

glad i read more into the process. is a real extreme time saver.

superkoax · #73 01-09-2008, 04:07 AM

chris, please, please pretty please start soon! We are all waiting

I would see you retouch for 5hours! for us it's not the time, it's the how to get there that's important!

I know a good title for your retouching dvd('s)

saby · #74 01-09-2008, 04:38 AM

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Originally Posted by cricket1961

...I might be making a video for skin retouching soon.

Chris

I'd like to advance book one

AdamZx3 · #75 01-09-2008, 08:36 PM

Ok I finished watching the DVD and here's my review, first the short and sweet then some more details.

If your starting out in photoshop went through some photoshop books and are looking for more tutorial than a 10min "makeover" and would like a blur free portrait, then I would rate this 5 stars. If you've done some beauty retouching but want your photo's to pop more and learn a few tricks on how to use the tools in a different way I would give it a 3.5-4 stars because of cost. I already knew all the tools covered in the lesson but but seeing where and how they used helped. If your looking to reconstruct skin, even skin-tone color or other advanced techniques then this isn't for you, perhaps his next DVD will cover hours of skinwork. His workflow is somewhat destructive however not that bad as he flattens his work after he's sure it's right. He also shows you how to D&B on a separate layer if you want. The extra raw files and PSD's are icing on the cake. They provide plenty of practice and a look at his version to compare to yours.

While on the skin subject there was about 13mins of clone and healing brush review in the beginning, working on another photo, basically showing how they work and why there different. Later on about 11min of cloning to cleanup (I think he also did some offscreen) and then a little D&B to even skin texture. The model didn't have perfect skin, but some bumps and pimples. Working with the 39mp Hassy files made this easy to produce flawless skin. There are sample photo's with rougher skin to practice on as well.

While there wasn't anything new to me at all, the biggest thing is watching how to D&B to shape the body, that helped me the most. Also seeing how to use liquify the right way (subtly) was pretty cool, as I have never really messed with it before. Seeing how to pay attention to the not so obvious was cool, as I never noticed her hair being "top heavy" before he mentioned it. Rebuilding the ear where the ear ring was is pretty slick, but that's as far as reconstruction goes, which I think the first one was to not get to crazy anyway.

All in all I am satisfied with my purchase. Like all my books and tutorial DVD's I get, I will sell it on ebay after I have practiced and it has become second nature. After selling and paying a portion of it off, makes it pretty good deal.

*Edit**
I wish he would add an online highres before picture, but there is a full size after on the site as well.