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How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

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Old 02-19-2010, 08:34 PM
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Re: How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

The quality and quatity of light is essential. Then the quality of the optics in the Mamiya/Hasselblad is important. And the latent large dynamic range in Portra 160NC. Then the enourmous quality you can drag out from the film with a drum scanner. A scanner witch is having photo multiplier tubes and not a CCD.

Film render the image in another way than in a sensor. The colours is dyes not a generated colour trough a filter. There are many aspects in getting the type of picture thats is wanted from the photographers side.

Many big shot photographer tell public that they use DSLR and digibacks for their pictures. I know many who are payed big money from their sponsors to do so.

Let me get this clear, im not the only one who still use a 4x5" view camera og a MF camera. If that was the reality, Kodak wouldnt released Kodak Ektar 100 in 4x5" and 8x10" a few days ago.

Film is still king and a very high quality medium of collecting light. Its even faster to work with. But use what you have of gear and learn to master it. Photo gear is just a tool. Thats why i use several kind of gear, just to reach my pre-visualized pictures.

By the way, i used in fact Ektar 100 for a magazine coverpicture this week.
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Old 02-20-2010, 05:29 AM
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Re: How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

Your attached picture is looking great Erik!
I like it!
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Old 02-20-2010, 07:26 AM
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"But use what you have of gear and learn to master it. Photo gear is just a tool."

Totally agree with Erik on this, learn to master the gear you have. Like i have always said, expensive gear does not equal goood photography.

Time Actor, just check out some of the behind the scene videos over on Dave Hill's site, when he's not using a hassleblad he's using a Canon DSLR!

Erik, love those last shots, very cool :-O)
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Re: How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

The last shot is much more "My style" But i shoot the styles my clients pay for. And i retouch greenbergpictures when they are ordered. My personal taste in photo doesnt matter when it comes to commercial. But on my personal projects, my picture never ends up on a hard disc. The end up on brattyha paper and are retouched with pencils, masks, bleach, toner, multilayer negatives. Positive masks, dodgemasks, burnmasks, higlightmaskas etc. Its in the darkroom i really feel i make photography. Not on the computer. There i feel more like a illustrator
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Old 02-20-2010, 08:21 AM
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Great Style Erik - superb!
@longside1
yes i saw the "behind" videos all 1 year before. I ´ve saw no HASSI or anything only Canon Cams. But i think he use mf cameras too. i mean i´ve heard about this. is this a secret of dave hill? ;-)

In later future i´ll test some mf cameras like phaseone (mamyia). I like highcontrast pictures very well und with very fast flash sync of 1:800sec. i could use my Elinchrom Ranger RX Speed AS with "a" head and the lower power of my elinchrom quadra Q with 2 x "A" heads to shoot against sun.

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Old 02-20-2010, 11:45 AM
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Re: How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

Hi guys, similar post processing as the Greenberg effect but my own take:

http://farm5.static.flickr.com/4053/...c6eaae8b_b.jpg
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Old 02-20-2010, 06:56 PM
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Re: How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

very very good longside!
i´m missing colors but i´ve seen that jill has taken some shots for commercional using like prints for concerts.

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Old 02-21-2010, 05:13 AM
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very very good longside!
i´m missing colors but i´ve seen that jill has taken some shots for commercional using like prints for concerts.
Thanks timeactor, i'm glad you like the shot. like i said, my iintention wasn't to create a JG photo, the above shot is from my personal collection. I'm sure though that some of the techniques i used will be similar to those used by JG's retouchers.

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Old 02-22-2010, 03:21 PM
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Yes shure!
In your picture i like the softness and sharpness in combination!
Good Style!
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Old 03-15-2010, 05:56 PM
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Re: How to get the Jill Greenberg effect

Hdang! Finally ive found people who can appreciate well lit and made photos before totally "made" pictures. All the respect for TimeActor! Really like your pictures, not only JG look a likes. Ive been studying more photography and lighting techniques last couple of years and now its time to move on and try to master LR and PS. Would love to hear about your workflow for JG pics, but like you said for another dude.. Gotta earn some "rep" ;D
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