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Old 01-26-2008, 12:50 PM
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Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

Hi guys,

I'm starting to use D & B in most of my photos now and am now always looking for methods to improve my technique.

When D & B I either use a neutral grey overlay layer or two curves adjustment layers, one dark one light. Although i'm improving, one of the problems I have at the moment is identifying in the shot dark and light areas to enhance.

To this extent I had an idea but am unsure how to go about it.

Would it be possible convert a colour image to monotone, thus making it easier to see the tonal shifts in an image, dodging and burning that image and then somehow applying the edits in the black and white image to the original colour version through a blending mode or something??

I hope this kinda makes sense!

Thanks, Matt....
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:06 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

if you made an adjustment layer on top to convert the file to B&W and then d/b on a layer below, but this would only be possible in cs3...
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:25 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

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if you made an adjustment layer on top to convert the file to B&W and then d/b on a layer below, but this would only be possible in cs3...
Hey why i didn't I think of that! I'll give that a try!
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Old 01-26-2008, 01:47 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

hue sat layer on top, desat 100%....then s curve to bump contrast.
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Old 01-26-2008, 02:01 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

Hi there

Duplicate your background

Change the duplicates layer mode to Luminosity

Click back on the background and open a blank layer between the background and the duplicate.

Fill this blank layer with 50 percent gray.

Click back on the top layer and make luminosity changes as needed.

You check you progress by just clicking the visibility of the gray layer.

When done just flatten or delete the gray layer.

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Old 01-26-2008, 05:41 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

I find it even helps sometimes to create a third curves or levels layer under the hue&sat layer, but on this one you just bump up the contrast abit.... makes the light and dark spots easier to notice... and then when you're done, you just click it off along with the hue&Sat layer.
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Old 01-26-2008, 08:11 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

You need to be careful using a hue sat layer. When completely de-saturating it can have a tendency to even out the channels thereby "hiding" some of the skins imperfections.
However you choose to show the density differences, it needs to be able to show everything. Otherwise you will miss a lot of stuff that will be noticeable in full color viewing.

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Old 01-27-2008, 11:01 AM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

Have you tried dodging in LAB colour?
Dupe a layer, convert to LAB, go to channel 1lightness, dodge and burn away, you will see the image in greyscale as you edit then swap back to combined image.
The good thing about LAB colour is that you can dodge and burn without affecting the colour of the image, it just adjusts the levels and not doesn't affect the colour.
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Old 01-27-2008, 02:09 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

That is good about lab, but then when you convert back you don't have the ability to undo. Unless you make a dupe of the channel or layer.

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Old 01-27-2008, 03:23 PM
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Re: Dodging and Burning - Technique Question

Yes Lab is good for that, I know what you mean about stepping back, remember you always have the history and also I would always have a dupe layer just in case.
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