How to: "Christian Schmidt" Look

subxaero · #1 02-04-2008, 11:56 AM

(i just hope, that it's not just plain highkey :p)

hataproof818 · #2 02-04-2008, 12:15 PM

Very nice pictures....i would probably have to guess that its some major lighting trick....i wish i could develop some radiant pictures....but i have nothing but a digital camera lol...no lights or anything

i would like to know how those are done...if not by lighting techniques

pixelzombie · #3 02-05-2008, 01:34 AM

the fishing pic looks like it was PWL...

saby · #4 02-05-2008, 02:23 AM

linear gamma in color space solves the most of this looking

palms · #5 02-05-2008, 07:31 AM

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Originally Posted by saby

linear gamma in color space solves the most of this looking

Saby really like your result and this sort of style, but I don't understand your workflow ( sounds very technical)

could you explain it a bit more, like is it done in ps ? or is it some other software

Palms

saby · #6 02-05-2008, 07:41 AM

Hi Palms,

of course I've heard about it here for 1st.
this is the thread:http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...ma-1-00-a.html

after to get this rgb space - the link in the thread - U just have to use the assign profil command from the edit menu.

palms · #7 02-05-2008, 07:45 AM

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Originally Posted by saby

Hi Palms,

of course I've heard about it here for 1st.
this is the thread:http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...ma-1-00-a.html

Thanks Saby looks like a lot of reading to be done there (and it looks technical

) will have a look into it ! I may be back with questions

Palms

saby · #8 02-05-2008, 07:51 AM

it's worth it

SergioDanilo · #9 02-06-2008, 08:55 AM

Sabys comment discribes how to get the picture superclean but how
did christian Schmidt get this white look.

Markus Hintzen, Michael Schnabel, Christian Schmidt they all got a high contrast,white Look.
Anybody knows how to get this look?

saby · #10 02-06-2008, 10:33 AM

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Originally Posted by SergioDanilo

Sabys comment discribes how to get the picture superclean but how
did christian Schmidt get this white look.

Markus Hintzen, Michael Schnabel, Christian Schmidt they all got a high contrast,white Look.
Anybody knows how to get this look?

after U got the light picture duplicate the bckgrnd blending mode multiply

SergioDanilo · #11 02-06-2008, 11:36 AM

JOY HAPPY JOY JOY
Thank you saby

pixelhunter · #12 02-06-2008, 11:51 AM

Great result, but i don't get it.
Multiply darkens my image, and the "blend if gray" produces very little change.

saby · #13 02-06-2008, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelhunter

Great result, but i don't get it.
Multiply darkens my image, and the "blend if gray" produces very little change.

did U lighten the image before OR after that convert (not assign) it back to normal (adobe) rgb space?

pixelhunter · #14 02-06-2008, 12:40 PM

I did:
- Open image
- Edit - Assign Profile, AIM RGB
- Duplicate Background
- Layer1 to Multiply

saby · #15 02-06-2008, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelhunter

I did:
- Open image
- Edit - Assign Profile, AIM RGB
- Edit - Convert to Profil, Adobe RGB
- Duplicate Background
- Layer1 to Multiply

may be this helps???

pixelhunter · #16 02-06-2008, 01:59 PM

Nope. Thanks anyway.

Dexy · #17 02-06-2008, 02:40 PM

or you could try this..
open
duplicate background, name it 'light'
set this layer 'light' to screen.
duplicate layer 'light' and set blending mode to between 60 and 100 % to suit

then a little fine tuning to finish?

dexy http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...um/01after.jpg

pixelhunter · #18 02-06-2008, 02:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saby

may be this helps???

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexy

or you could try this..
open
duplicate background, name it 'light'
set this layer 'light' to screen.
duplicate layer 'light' and set blending mode to between 60 and 100 % to suit

then a little fine tuning to finish?

dexy http://i273.photobucket.com/albums/j...um/01after.jpg

Definitely not the same, but thanks.

Dexy · #19 02-06-2008, 02:56 PM

oops yeh its way off, i just clicked on enlarge on the other one and its hardly anything like it, oops!!
i cant figure those instructions/get them to work either. pity i love that look too, it would be lovely to have that skill and incorporate it into a shot or two, hope someone else gives us a clue :O)

Dexy · #20 02-06-2008, 03:34 PM

- Edit - Assign Profile, AIM RGB

er, can you tell me what AIM stands for and why i cant see it under my assign to profile options . .?

here's hoping . .

palms · #21 02-06-2008, 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dexy

- Edit - Assign Profile, AIM RGB

er, can you tell me what AIM stands for and why i cant see it under my assign to profile options . .?

here's hoping . .

yahoo one i can answer look at #6 by Saby on this thread

Palms

pixelhunter · #22 02-06-2008, 03:40 PM

Hey Palms. You got what Saby tried explaining?

palms · #23 02-06-2008, 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by pixelhunter

Hey Palms. You got what Saby tried explaining?

well some like "click here"

sort of but i need to go over things a couple of times to "get it" then see if i can work it in ps7 although i have found loads of different profiles for my printer

Palms

saby · #24 02-07-2008, 03:33 AM

missunderstanding me cause of my low english sorry

my workflow:

subxaero · #25 02-07-2008, 06:09 AM

thanks to saby for his generous help on this topic!!!

now it's up to us to use this technique without just trying to copy all the photographers that are already on that train

pixelhunter · #26 02-07-2008, 09:50 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by saby

missunderstanding me cause of my low english sorry

my workflow:

Hi Saby. Thanks.

Is it:

Convert - AIM
Assign - AIM
Convet Adobe
Assign Adobe

Cheers.

saby · #27 02-07-2008, 09:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pixelhunter

Hi Saby. Thanks.

Is it:

Convert - AIM
Assign - AIM
Convet Adobe
Assign Adobe

Cheers.

nope,

convert- Adobe
assign- AIM
convert- Adobe
assign- AIM

pixelhunter · #28 02-07-2008, 10:09 AM

Fantastic!
And add some Curves, and it's a hit.

Thanks.

girlsfather · #29 02-07-2008, 02:19 PM

This is really, really interesting!

I just realised that you have the possibility to develop raws applying a linear curve.
This is the case in most raw developping software like adobe cs raw or leaf capture.
This seems to lead to similar results, if you do the multiply inverse and gamma thing.

I am not sure if - physically - this is the same thing:
Applying a linear gamma and developping with a linear curve instead of medium contrast.

I wonder if it is a good idea to apply a linear profile, that is not somehow related to the photo. As far as I understood ColorManagement, profiles always should refer to the camera/scanner/monitor
To me this seems to be a method that works somehow, but might cause some unwanted effects, especially if you do the applying/converting thing more than one time.

I found out that all the generic camera-profiles and the flextight input (scanner) profile
show little or no visible colour difference, but lighter with less contrast if applied.
But what happens to the colours?

Can anybody bring some clearence please?

JONATHANL · #30 02-12-2008, 03:40 PM

i dont have the AIM RGB when i Click on ( photoshop) CS3
-edit -assign profile,
I ONLY have A wide gamut
and how do you lighten your image with curves? sorry but i loose
something on the process and i would really like toget it done right.
Can somebody could give me step by step what to do then i could add this to my knowledge

thanks