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Old 03-02-2008, 03:58 PM
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How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" look

hey all,

hope these 'how to: somephotographer-look' posts aren't getting old. I think they have proven incredibly useful for both me and others so I thought I'd start one meself.

The photos in question that I'm interested in are the shots that Annie Leibovitz took of Queen Elizabeth last year. They can be found here:

http://www.britainusa.com/sections/a...=70003&a=46309

I'm especially curious how to obtain that greenish/brown/golden look. (The lighting that you see is due to a very elaborate lighting setup and should probably not be analysed from a photoshop perspective). Also the images look remarkebly clean to me. They have been shot with a Canon 1ds mII and a Canon 24-70mm lens

Anyway hoping to get some responses.

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Old 03-02-2008, 04:56 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

I like pic number 2
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Old 03-02-2008, 07:53 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Sometimes - more often, probably, than a lot of people here would like to think - the answer to "how to do (some photographer's) look" is simply, or not so simply, "have as much talent, as many years of experience and maybe as much spendy equipment as (some photographer)."
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

If you have not seen this, take a look and take note of the number of assistants and the amount of time spent setting up. The PS work is most likely quite minor (although quite well done) in comparison to the photography.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcnPicsZ6-A
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Old 03-03-2008, 01:01 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

we used to scan Annies trans' back in the early nineties and for the most part there wasn't a lot of retouching done back then but it might be different these days considering the digital workflow...
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Old 03-03-2008, 08:38 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Not much going on there in my mind..
I saw the video on another website and the picture in the black cape is not the original background. it has been superimposed..:+}
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Old 03-03-2008, 10:56 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

I think Box studios do the retouching for Annie.
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

These were very likely done by Box and as such I believe that they did not come out of the camera like this. Aside from the lighting ofcourse.

Note that the second picture is indeed superimposed; however the background stuns me and I find it hard to replicate that dark brownish/golden look.

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Old 03-04-2008, 09:34 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

One of the photographers I do a lot of work for does assisting for Annie when she is here in the UK. I can pose the question to see if he knows.
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Old 03-05-2008, 08:53 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

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If you have not seen this, take a look and take note of the number of assistants and the amount of time spent setting up. The Photoshop work is most likely quite minor (although quite well done) in comparison to the photography.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EcnPicsZ6-A
Not really. She just has a lot of people who will work for free. Of course you spend a lot of time "setting up", like you would for any VIP who's only going to give you 15. And I guess a few of the people are Annie's nannies for the little kid running around. She also brought her bad American manners, too, with that one.
The lighting is fairly simple. The many hours of photoshop work saves the shots.
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Old 03-06-2008, 07:40 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Yeah can we try one with the damn Crown off! Photographers eh
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Old 03-06-2008, 08:18 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

I could not believe she did it with a 1DsMII...
Disappointing..
The Queen should get atleast the Hassie..:+}
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Old 03-16-2008, 03:15 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Hello All,
I joined up to see if I could get the instructions regarding the retouch/treatment of Annie L's portrait of the Queen. Is that actually posted somewhere?
Any help would be much appreciated.
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:15 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

I had assumed that the second photo with the landscape background was taken in front of a very large oil painting at the salubrious location. Seems a bit 'tacky' superimposing Her Majesty on anything.

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Old 03-17-2008, 05:23 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Well it is super imposed... She even talks about it in her interview ( Annie that is)
Now a days anything goes as far as Post...:+}
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:57 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

personally I think that the pictures are meant to look like old paintings if you see these small pictures...the effect is nice...
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Old 04-02-2008, 02:30 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

if you watch the youtube video and even look at the hires versions of those photos there is some serious post work going on. Annie's early work had virtually no post but now with the way commercial and editorial photography is going.... post is a huge part of creating her "look". there is a TON of painting with light and exposure painting.
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Old 04-02-2008, 09:04 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

One of the photogs i look up to. Great PP.
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

it seems strange she has this whole crew of people with this elaborate set and she is shooting without a tripod...
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:38 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Pixel

She takes a lot of pictures for just one shot. When I used to do stuff for her, there could be a blending of at least 8 shots to get one. He has a real hot spot for getting perspective correctly.
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Old 04-03-2008, 12:42 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

He? or She?
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Old 04-03-2008, 02:13 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

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Pixel

She takes a lot of pictures for just one shot. When I used to do stuff for her, there could be a blending of at least 8 shots to get one. she has a real hot spot for getting perspective correctly.
Chris
now that sounds like it would be fun to work on...
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Old 04-03-2008, 05:47 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

No it doiesn't
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:20 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

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No it doiesn't
Haha, beat me to it!
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Old 04-04-2008, 07:49 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

if i am not mistaken, after the shoot, annie went and shot some landscapes (you can see it the end of the video) which later used in the second shot.
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Old 04-04-2008, 10:24 AM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

IMO the lighting looks simple, and its just soft big source. I do like the color, but it is not realistic, looks like heavy dodge and burn, selective color balance, and prob a lot of filter or color overlays. And if you have a few minutes with the quenn, why would you want to shoot with the hasselblad? that camera shoots at 2 frames per hour, where the files from the mk2, or mk3 for that matter will be just as good....obviously. besides, not everyone can afford 40k for a mf digital camera...esp someone like Annie Liebowitz hahahhaha
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Old 04-06-2008, 07:45 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

Millions of people paint their appartments when they move houses.

Thousands of people make a living as a house painter.

But there was only one Michelangelo...



I wonder how many people who just finished painting their apartment look at the paint-bucket, see there is some color left and then go to the internet and ask "Hey, how do I make a Leonardo da Vinci painting?"
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:21 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

that really didnt make any sense. But, if you are seriously comparing AL to Michaelangelo, then your on crack. lets do apples to apples here, im sure michaelangelo didnt roll in with a Dewalt air compressor and a wagner spray gun, and a bunch of $5/hr assistants, shoot the ceiling, with a base coat and then hand the rest of the job off to a retoucher to finish it off. That guy gets props becasue he did it all himself. Word around the campfire is that he made the red color in the paint with his own blood, and the browns were made from his....well you get the point. None the less, those two clowns arent even in the same league, sport, or arena for that matter.

But to get back on track, nobody still has answered the original question anyway.
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Old 04-06-2008, 08:23 PM
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

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Millions of people paint their appartments when they move houses.

Thousands of people make a living as a house painter.

But there was only one Michelangelo...



I wonder how many people who just finished painting their apartment look at the paint-bucket, see there is some color left and then go to the internet and ask "Hey, how do I make a Leonardo da Vinci painting?"


.............qué?!?
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Re: How to: "Annie leibovitz' Queen Elizabeth" loo

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that really didnt make any sense. But, if you are seriously comparing AL to Michaelangelo, then your on crack. lets do apples to apples here, im sure michaelangelo didnt roll in with a Dewalt air compressor and a wagner spray gun, and a bunch of $5/hr assistants, shoot the ceiling, with a base coat and then hand the rest of the job off to a retoucher to finish it off. That guy gets props becasue he did it all himself. Word around the campfire is that he made the red color in the paint with his own blood, and the browns were made from his....well you get the point. None the less, those two clowns arent even in the same league, sport, or arena for that matter.

But to get back on track, nobody still has answered the original question anyway.
whoa dude, if your implying that the shot(s) is what it is, because of post production, that's just uncool. i'm not saying retouching doesn't play its part, but she is far from someone who presses a button and leaves the rest up to someone else to fix.
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