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Old 03-09-2008, 08:01 PM
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Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

Does anybody know of a good way to mask hair? I've even tried the demo of Mask Pro (http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=4) and it couldn't separate the hair from a solid green background. Was I just using it wrong? Help!
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:09 PM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

Try Russell Brown's Tips on Masking. Look at the bottom of THIS page.
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Old 03-09-2008, 08:58 PM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

he has good stuff, but he talks way too damn slow, i dont think ive actaully listend to a full lesson by him because he takes forever.
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Old 03-09-2008, 09:53 PM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

It's subject matter...did you try to work with color range, selection tools, channels(creating alfa channel)...
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Old 03-09-2008, 09:54 PM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

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Does anybody know of a good way to mask hair? I've even tried the demo of Mask Pro (http://www.ononesoftware.com/detail.php?prodLine_id=4) and it couldn't separate the hair from a solid green background. Was I just using it wrong? Help!
Two tips: often you don't need to actually mask the hair, strand for strand, but, rather, create a hairlike mask that you can clone into. A 3 pixel brush with size and opacity set to pressure sensitive can create nice strands and flyaways. As I say at the bottom of my posts, who cares if it's right, so long as it looks right?

Also, you can create the best mask possible, accepting that you won't accurately capture the wisps that fade into the background without bringing along that background as well. When you put your masked layer against the new background, dupe that part of the new background that overlaps the hair to a new layer. Place it above your masked figure and group to it. Hide this background layer with a mask. If the new background is lighter than the one from which your figure was extracted, set it to screen. If it is darker than the original, set it to multiply. Now reveal these background pixels wherever you have unsightly halos from the previous background. Usually, you can not only blend the halos into the underlying background, you can bring out the wispy hair concealed within. It's tedious and won't always give perfect results, but usually you can preserve the original hair edges, blended against the new background.
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Old 03-10-2008, 01:30 AM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

Katrin Eismann uses some good techniques for hair in this:

http://www.software-cinema.com/produ...uct_details/44

It's essentially working on your alpha channel under the channels palette,
and using a black or white brush in overlay mode to pull out more hair
detail. Or using the dodge and burn tools the same way.

I'm barely explaining it, but it can work quite well.
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Old 03-10-2008, 01:53 AM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

I just watched Russell Browns video.
Man that guy is hard to listen to.
He does 'essentially' the same thing
Katrin does...
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Old 03-10-2008, 07:12 AM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

I've listened to Russell Brown for so many years, i just tune out his persona. His masking tutorial *is* one of the best if you ignore all the rest.
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Old 03-10-2008, 02:20 PM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

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As informative as his tutorials are, more often than not you can guess exactly what he is going to say about a minute before he actually says it. Great that he keeps everything for free, and his scripts for Photoshop/Bridge are excellent.

Nice work Mr. Brown.


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Old 03-11-2008, 05:04 AM
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Re: Any tricks or tips for masking hair?

I thought all you colonials talked like that, since you all seem to have so many problems with the English language. (Ducks as heavy objects fly my way).
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