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Old 03-17-2008, 03:02 PM
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Re: Magazine color/skin.

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It's important to use the right fuzziness setting, and make enough selections to catch all the skin.

Still, as I said earlier, and others have repeated: this kind of retouching is virtually never acceptable in commercial work--which includes pretty much all photography with models. It is sometimes acceptable for portraiture.
I'm going to try to mess around with it a bit using your suggestions.

I know this isn't used in commercial work. Like I said, I'm using it for personal use, not professional use. It seems like that form of retouching is only used with mens magazines anyway.
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If you aren't going to be helpful then please find another thread to post in.
My comments and Ants were THE most helpful.
You just don't realize it (yet?).
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My comments and Ants were THE most helpful.
You just don't realize it (yet?).
They weren't helpful, you're just not getting that.
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You just don't realize it.
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:21 PM
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I really hope you're not an adult acting this way. You're not getting it so I'm not going to reply to any more of these usless posts that have nothing to do with the thread I made.
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Old 03-17-2008, 05:25 PM
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Re: Magazine color/skin.

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I know this isn't used in commercial work. Like I said, I'm using it for personal use, not professional use. It seems like that form of retouching is only used with mens magazines anyway.
"Men's magazines" are considered commercial work. If you're comparing this kind of results with, say, Maxim, FHM, or Playboy, you probably want to re-examine those magazines' images.
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Old 03-17-2008, 08:10 PM
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Re: Magazine color/skin.

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I really hope you're not an adult acting this way.
Where as personal insults ARE adult?
All i said was you don't realize we are being helpful.

Reach for the stars, even if you fail you'll probably end up at a better
place than aiming for the bottom rung.

Training your eye to what looks good is no personal attack,
it's advice meant to help you improve. Why are you so
defensive towards this suggestion?

If you went to a forum for chefs asking how to make a
big mac you'd probably get similar responses.
"Why even aim to make that? Here's something better."
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Old 03-18-2008, 06:18 AM
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I must say i agree with CaptianHook and ant in this thread, its a horrible retouch, and not proper for any kind of publication...

I Work full time as a retoucher, i mostly do fashion, but once in a while ill do some FHM work... It usually takes me 8 hours for a fhm cover.. Not a 5 min retouch with some program...

The images have been given a heavy blur. Way too much for my taste.

But if its the look your looking for, you can try this:

First of all you should do the color correction, use some curves, pump the saturation or perhaps try a 20 % overlay... Just try around until you get the feeling you want...

Spot heal a lot...

Add a heavy surface blur on a duplicate layer. Add a black layer mask, and paint in the blurred skin.
Lower the opacity to you wanted blurness...
Add some nois, on an empty 50 % gray overlay layer... adjust the opacity..

Add a heavy highpass onto a new layer, to bring out some more details in the skin...

There you have quick 10 min retouch....

But i would probaly learn to do retouching a better way...
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Old 03-18-2008, 09:00 AM
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Re: Magazine color/skin.

CaptainHook and Ant and all the other retouchers who say that there's a better way.

I know there is and I love Chris Tarantino's work. The blurred effect definitely doesn't do it for me when I want to do quality work, but I'm just not at that level yet. I've tried dodging and burning to some success, although I still have much to learn. Yet for all my searching and reading in various RetouchPro threads, I have only come across a few very good posts or tutorials about high-end retouching. I was wondering if any of you could provide some insight into the matter.

As you suggest that we newer retouchers use a better method, perhaps you could explain or give some tips on what this newer method is. Maybe I'll make a new thread for this, as I'd be hijacking this one.

Many thanks.

EDIT: I've created a new thread for this topic. http://www.retouchpro.com/forums/pho...etouching.html

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Old 03-25-2008, 01:28 PM
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Re: Magazine color/skin.

Ok i see that your feeling a little beaten up so im going to try to explain what the others are saying in a more gentle way. The technique she is using is the degrunge technique, also called the high-pass way. The reason i think her work looks crappy is because ive done it that way for a while until i realised what the RIGHT way to do it was. Hers looks very blurry, In almost a mythical way, and its because she feels as though she needs to rid ALL of the skin of imperfections, ending up with an unreal slightly cartoonish look. I use the same technique she is using, and im not the best at it, but you have to learn to use it in moderation.

This is what she is doing, just not using it the right way:
http://retouchersblog.wordpress.com/...high-pass-way/

Here is the way i do it:
http://i26.tinypic.com/2uomeqf.png
Theres a lot of things that i need to go back and touch up, including her nose and hair. But if you see, her skin is still done using the high pass way. It just dosnt look foamy. You have to play around with it because in the end you will find out, it is really a great tool.
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