How do I get this effect? Sort of pseudo high key.

[Ben123]

Hello together,

my first post in this forum is related to an image I found in the web. I really like the effect of this image and wonder how to mimic it. I thought its only something like bleach bypass, but it seems to be more than that... I'm especially interested in the editing of the background, you can imagine the sky was bright blue and the grass on the dunes was green.

Here's the image (unfortunately its a flash album, so no direct link possible). Same effect on the second image, the halo around the person suggests some selective editing of the background...

Thanks for all suggestions.

Ben

[CaptainHook]

Looks like a major sharpening halo on the second one.
It's prob just high pass sharpening or USM at quite large/high settings.

[nevie]

it looks like bleach bypass probably with some selective masking. perhaps some density changes of the sky.

[cainam]

Duplicate your layer and put it in overlay mode.

[Ben123]

Hello,

thanks for the replies so far. The halo is probably really from USM or adding "clarity". But with the duplicated layer in overlay I never manage to get this high key effect without loosing a lot of details (same true for channel mixer overlay in grey mode). But if you look e.g. at the water, the details and shading are nicely preserved, but the color is changed... I don't get it

[Rhasval]

Let see if this helps. As Cainam said, duplicate your layer and put it in overlay mode, it is a good starting point. But I would also add some adjustments layers.
I did a quick tutorial so you see what I mean. I hope it will be useful.

p.s.: Sorry but my Photoshop has all the windows text in Spanish. Anyways they are the same windows and have the same distribution that the ones in English. If you have any question, just let me know.

[Orisinal]

Hi Ben

In Photoshop..
It might be an adjustment layer, called hue and saturation.
just pick the color you want to desaturate and pull down on the slider.

Halo could be bad masking before gaussian blur or curvelayer.

BR Orisinal

[Ben123]

Thanks Rhasval, I never thought about the possibilty to use the Black&White dialog instead of the channel mixer. I will have to play around with that a bit. In your (great!) tutorial you set all layers on overlay? And what does this little arrow say on the B&W layer?

Thanks a lot, Ben

[Rhasval]

You're welcome Ben.
Nope, there are just two layers on overlay.

Sorry, I did the tutorial too fast and I forgot to say that it's another layer on overlay. Here is a new version.

About the B&W adjustment layer, for me, is one of the great new features in CS3. It let you control all colours in the image separately in a very easy way. A great trick and something to experiment a little bit is a B&W adjustment layer on luminosity, above a colour image. Try it.

The little arrow on the B&W layer is call clipping mask and it minds that this layer use the layer below as mask and only affects to that layer is pointing. One way to add a clipping mask is holding down the Alt key (Win) or Opt key (Mac) and move the cursor to the line inbetween the clipping mask layer and the one below. As soon as you move the cursor on the line, the cursor will change showing two circles. Then click and the little arrow will show up.

Did you get it?

[saby]

I'm not a waged agent about it, but assigning the rgb colorspace with the linear gamma in photoshop, solves the most of this looking.

attachment:
assign rgb profile with g=1
convert to adobe rgb 1998
assign rgb profile with g=1
convert to adobe rgb 1998
duplkicate backgnd blending mode: multiply
blend if this layer gray not white (soft transition 60/200)

[Rhasval]

Hi Saby, I think I´m missing something, here is my assign profile windows. Where should I do the “assign rgb profile with g=1”?

[saby]

Originally Posted by Rhasval

Hi Saby, I think I´m missing something, here is my assign profile windows. Where should I do the “assign rgb profile with g=1”?

Hi Rhasval,

U'd download it from here
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/evaluation/gie/index.htm

put it to others in the system
and edit menu...

[Rhasval]

Thanks Saby. I'll try it out.

[cholodelavega]

Originally Posted by saby

Hi Rhasval,

U'd download it from here
http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/evaluation/gie/index.htm

put it to others in the system
and edit menu...

Hi saby! Downloaded the file already, Where do i place it on my hard drive?

[MacBurg]

On a Mac, drop the files here -

Mac Hard Drive>Library>ColorSync>Profiles

Alternatively, do a spotlight search for sRGB and look for .icc or .icm files, then reveal in Finder.



On a PC, who knows.


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[cricket1961]

I have used that profile in the past Saby. I love linear RGB.
Great post. Forgot all about that site.

Chris

[saby]

and has comprehensive usage

[JavierT]

Hi Rhasval, another boy from Madrid.

[JavierT]

Originally Posted by saby

I'm not a waged agent about it, but assigning the rgb colorspace with the linear gamma in photoshop, solves the most of this looking.

attachment:
assign rgb profile with g=1
convert to adobe rgb 1998
assign rgb profile with g=1
convert to adobe rgb 1998
duplkicate backgnd blending mode: multiply
blend if this layer gray not white (soft transition 60/200)

Hi Saby.

I am reading this post and I remember another where you posted this move, but you began converting to adobe rgb 1998 and after assign aim (aim rgb=rgb profile gamma 1?). Is the same?

Sorting the moves like in the other post, I have problems with blacks, works bad and sometimes is like them turn solar or something like that. May be I have to change the moves sort?

Thanks Saby.

[saby]

that's right

converting to abobe rgb doesn't affect the colors of the picture, adobe rgb space is a wide gammut rgb space, so quite good for start. In this case my pict was in Adobe rgb space so I'd no have to convert.

please send a pict what went wrong(b&a), because I can't imagine how could U get kinda solarized

[JavierT]

Hi Saby:

Here is a link to two pictures with this effect applyed. Here it works. I have been trying with other kind of pictures and i have seen that I have that bad efect ( like solar efect) in the very dark areas, maybe solid black. I will look one example and post it for you.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2479257...83962/sizes/l/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/2479257...84334/sizes/l/

In the pictures I link here, I have added a soft light layer at the end to increase the shadows intensity and achieve some contrast. What do you think of it?

thanks a lot Saby, I think you control very good this technique.

[CaptainHook]

Saby ~ i know you've talked endlessly about aim, and told people how/why to use it,
but can you humour me and once again explain the main advantage of using
this profile?

What in an image makes you turn to it?

[saby]

Originally Posted by JavierT

Hi Saby:
...In the pictures I link here, I have added a soft light layer at the end to increase the shadows intensity and achieve some contrast. What do you think of it?...

nice work over all, ceiling should be abit lighter to me, I use this to my daily work when something need to be lightened, often it's better than using the screen layers or 'Shadow/Highlight' function -the histogram shows it exactly-and it can be automated because u can't lose detail.

[saby]

Originally Posted by CaptainHook

Saby ~ i know you've talked endlessly about aim, and told people how/why to use it,
but can you humour me and once again explain the main advantage of using
this profile?

What in an image makes you turn to it?

this is for correction, where the main light of the picutre too dark, it doesn't affect the pixels in the highlight so it can be automated and used every kinda lighting. There is a great example @ the gamma included errors section here: http://www.aim-dtp.net/aim/evaluation/gie/index.htm about

sometimes it is great to darken picture which too light and U won't lose detail in shadow because it affect only the gamma curve.

make this 2 action to Urself and use them

to lighten:
"convert to profile AdobeRgb
assign profile AIM...
convert to profile AdobeRgb"


to darken:
"convert to profile AdobeRgb
convert to profile AIM...
assign profile AdobeRgb"