[BigBlaze]

I don't understand how you can smoothen skin in a 100% view. Most retoucher tell use, don't zoom in... New to retouching, I feel I have to zoom in at 800/1600% to D+B.

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by BigBlaze

I don't understand how you can smoothen skin in a 100% view. Most retoucher tell use, don't zoom in... New to retouching, I feel I have to zoom in at 800/1600% to D+B.

And who told you you should D&B at 100% zoom?

100 to 1000% sounds about right

[BigBlaze]

when the skin is perfect, do you sharpen the skin? In average, How much time do you spend on a beauty shoot?

[CaptainHook]

I've found on an image from a digital back of a medium format camera, 100% is
PLENTY. Maybe 200% but it's not necessary.
But even a 12mp DSLR and 400% seems enough to me.

My point is though, your zoom level would largely depend on file size/resolution
i would think.

[KR1156]

i normally db at 100%, and only zoom in for tight areas that require it. if not....you'll be there all day!!

[cricket1961]

I rarely go over 100% view and it is usually for something that is scattered over an area.
Other than that mostly at 100% and below.
I wrote a bit on D/B and there is a section included about this on my blog here at retouchpro. Take a look if you haven't already BigBlaze.

Chris

[nevie]

I'm not a professional in anyway, but what I have learned is to think of zooming in on your like putting a loupe on your image. If your screen resolution is 72 dpi and you are working on a 240 dpi image, zooming into 100% is equivalent to putting a 3x loupe on your image and I don't know anyone that walks around with a 3x loupe looking at images. Zooming in to 66.67% is roughly a 2x loupe and is really more than one might need except for selections with lasso. I don't know if this helped at all but its something to keep in mind.

[saby]

these 2 are at 100%, one of enough at this size the ohter should be enlarged about 5-6times bigger to correct it. one of these is 39Mpxls the other 8Mpxls. 100% view good for at last to check what U'll see on the print

[Godmother]

This is not a technical question.

At 100% you see what you'll see on the print. (period)

The rest: I like... I usually... I think... it's a matter of liking

I like to go over the actual pixel size because it makes it easier for me (comfortable actually) when doing detailed D&B not just painting with light it's better for me because I stop looking at the image as a whole and can focus on the pixels / pores alone.

But to be fare, I'm zooming in and off constantly

[saby]

not just, but inhere

Originally Posted by Godmother

This is not a technical question....

so this is not a fact

I agree with the rest

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by saby

not just, but inhere




so this is not a fact

I agree with the rest

I'm sorry but I think you misunderstood me... (Probably I didn't make my self clear... my English is not native )

I was saying that THAT'S the only technical answer "At 100% you see what you'll see on the print." I agree with you.


All the rest... what we do... what he should do... there's nothing technical about that because each does it how it's best for each or something like that

[grygarness]

Maybe I've missed something here, but no-one seems to be mentioning that there are good zooms and 'bad zooms'. Good views are 100% 200% (but not 300%) 400% 800% 1600% and downward 50% 25%. Anything below this gets too small, but those of you who noticed a pattern – yes – it follows a logarithm. Any in-between views are proxy cached views where the pixels get scrambled. Sometimes you can really notice it, especially on those really odd views you get if you use the Navigator. The reason 100% is the preferred view for critical assessment of retouching is that this is the only view where the map fits the territory; The territory being your 72ppi screen. This view is not to be confused with the print size, unless you plan to print at 72ppi (not a good idea). D&B for fine skin detail at 100% or lower views can be hard on your eyes, and can lead to neck strain – not to mention a lot of near-misses. The view you choose will depend on your eyesight, your manual skills, and the D&B task itself. Fine skin detail dodging usually needs zooming in, to maybe 200-400% and with intermittent checking at 100% (or Window>Arrange>New Window for...). As someone who does this kind of work up to 8 hours per day I'd say it's the way I prefer to do it. But for more general lighting/shading work you need to see the whole face (or body part) so I suggest you choose the view that's closest to the full screen view on the above list. Be logical, be flexible, and work the way that suits your eyesight and skills. The whole point of fine detail D&B is to establish a good pattern – not to smooth out the whole skin. There are better and more efficient techniques if you need to do that. (BTW...this is NOT an extract from my retouching book, but typical of my approach to retouching.) http://www.grygarness.com/

[CaptainHook]

Indeed that wasn't mentioned in this thread but it has been before.
But thanks for bringing it up again. I almost take for granted not
using 'inbetween zooms'.

[041567970]

Wow, this thread is amazing, thanks to all, who contributed!