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Old 04-23-2008, 11:34 PM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

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Nice Phase P30 back...!
I heard they're even better than Mamiyas
how do u like it ?
Phase One P 30 is a digital module than can be adapted to different medium format camera like Mamiya , Hasselblad, Contax and other.This module replace the well known film casette from the camera.BUT nice part is that you can use the back like a polaroid and then load the film holder and feel alive again.Digital will never beat analog.In musical instruments is the same.
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Phase One P 30 is a digital module than can be adapted to different medium format camera like Mamiya , Hasselblad, Contax and other.This module replace the well known film casette from the camera.BUT nice part is that you can use the back like a polaroid and then load the film holder and feel alive again.Digital will never beat analog.In musical instruments is the same.
from what you posted i see that digital is getting very close if not better than film, but it's not an item i can afford for home use which is why i still use my film cameras...
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Old 04-24-2008, 01:54 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

I have been looking your pictures (CMS) and is a very good result.
I donīt like the battle between digital and analogic, but I think that, in most situations and jobs, digital backs has high end enough quality.

I am a still life photographer and work with Imacon Digital Back. I work with four shots technology, getting incredible results (perfect textures) and have the posibility to work with 16 shots technology, getting a 384 16 bit file without interpolation.

Never heard from a client saying: " Ohhhh, sorry, but we donīt have enough quality". Normally they said to me things like: "384 mb? Please, next time give me a smaller file, my computer canīt work quickly with that kind of files".

About using a P30 like Polaroid....... Wow, I am sure you have a lot of work and high rate per day to do that, LOL. Digital backs are expensive and with very short life if your clients wants always "The last" ( Crazy Megapixel race: more megapixels-better pics)

Cms, I am busy this week, but next week I will try another pic. Thanks a lot, again.
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Old 04-24-2008, 03:56 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Tip:
next time you may want to use either http://www.podmailing.com/ (FREE, no size limits), or http://www.pando.com (FREE, 1GB size limit), to make large files available to others on the web without the nags, the confusion, and the waiting times of RapidShare.

Also, you can zip TIFF files before uploading to shrink the file size without image quality loss.
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Old 04-24-2008, 08:50 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

I haven't seen any digital shots (overall) beat out or match film yet. there's just something about film. it's just more natural. and captures greater details and color gradations in my opinion.
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Old 04-24-2008, 11:13 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

what bothers me with digital backs, is that they're slow, compared to the 20MP eos 1ds mark III, even though it's another type of camera, and a different way of working.
1,5 image/s, then wait for the transfert to computer, then load up images into the software for preview; lightroom or capture one for most.
can't wait for the 40/50 mp reflex..
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Old 04-25-2008, 05:39 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

CMS - thank you for the opportunity to work on this type of image. Very lovely lady. Comments/critiques welcome.

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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

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what bothers me with digital backs, is that they're slow, compared to the 20MP eos 1ds mark III, even though it's another type of camera, and a different way of working.
1,5 image/s, then wait for the transfert to computer, then load up images into the software for preview; lightroom or capture one for most.
can't wait for the 40/50 mp reflex..
You are right.THEY ARE SLOW.But you must see the advantage.More time to look for details, composing the image, model posing etc.The old school way.I have grown up with film and i have embraced digital from the begining.
Even with this type of performance digital will never be able to compete with gorgeus, aleatoire way of silver chemicals.NEVER.NEVER <NEVER. Digital is for making money.Just that.
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Old 04-27-2008, 06:46 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

my version
retouch and soft focus efect
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

my try

http://alex-sj.deviantart.com/art/Wa...rling-84102830
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

"The RapidShare Happy Hours are active right now. Have fun!" Lucky me; nice photos! thanks.
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Old 04-28-2008, 09:15 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Here is my attempt ..
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You have 5 files from my camera.Been here for some time and saw that nobody has acces to this type of files.I'm curios what you can do from them actually.

FEEL FREE TO USE IT WHEN, WHERE, HOW YOU WANT just please post the results and credits (ofcourse smaller sizes so nobody get weird ideas)!!!!!!!!

http://rapidshare.com/files/108178403/CF008276.TIF.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/108182571/CF009628.TIF.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/108183648/CF009326.TIF.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/108183946/CF009346.TIF.html
http://rapidshare.com/files/108184303/CF009401.TIF.html
If you upload them – through either podmailing.com (FREE; no file size limit) or pando.com (FREE up to 1GB) to your own eMail address, cms, you can copy the link you'll get and post it here for quick and convenient download without having to wait a half hour for each and every separate file.
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Looking forward to these, thanks so much for posting them!
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Old 05-01-2008, 02:24 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Very Nice retouch


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Hi CMS great pictures.

Here is one after from me.

click on the link for a 40% full size close up for the detail.
AFTER CLOSE UP FINE DETAIL

click on the images here under for a small crappy 100 kb size file to see the overall retouch.

(i had to crop it because if i did not the file would be to big)

What i did;
fixed:
eyebrow
her asymmetrical chin
here nose
hair
skin (D&B)
some color corrections
her neckless
nails
lips (softer and more glossy)

i left a spot in her neck to hold it more human.
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If you upload them – through either podmailing.com (FREE; no file size limit) or pando.com (FREE up to 1GB) to your own eMail address, cms, you can copy the link you'll get and post it here for quick and convenient download without having to wait a half hour for each and every separate file.
Why let someone else make money off of your downloads?
http://express.payloadz.com/?mode=adv
... I hate rapidshare. If anyone should be making money off of the downloads it's the content creator. I have nothing against free and unlimited hosting sites just thought I would throw this one in as an option too I could have pasted the link that would give me reseller credit through the site but I don't feel like doing something that could get me banned here
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

i forgot to attach the picture

please, visit my gallery to see the full quality photo

Details: http://alex-sj.deviantart.com/art/Wa...alhes-84104089

full: http://alex-sj.deviantart.com/art/Wa...rling-84102830
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Thanks for the great Pictures CMS.

Here is my retouche on one of them
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Hallo,
first many thanks to CMS for the great RAW-Files.

Enclose my attempts




Best regards, Udo
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Old 05-15-2008, 11:17 PM
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watch how far you go with the shaping rudd....these models are usually chosen for their bone structure.
Not trying to be argumentative but I am curious to understand the ethics involved. What appears to be more of a commercial image rather then a portrait. Is it not alright to make changes to the bone structure? I feel that Ruuds first post on this thread with the exception of the bottom lip made her look more refine and attractive. Can anybody explain the do's and don't as far as the ethics side of the retouching business?
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Not trying to be argumentative but I am curious to understand the ethics involved. What appears to be more of a commercial image rather then a portrait. Is it not alright to make changes to the bone structure? I feel that Ruuds first post on this thread with the exception of the bottom lip made her look more refine and attractive. Can anybody explain the do's and don't as far as the ethics side of the retouching business?
It depends.

I think Rudd did a very good work with this model, and I like a lot his result, the model looks great, better and so so atractive. Now, the question comes:
Was a good Idea reshaping the chin? In this case, yes.

If this retouch was for a client, here you have the "it depends". Like KR said, sometimes you have a model casting where you are looking for something (bones, the girl with the two teeth too separate i have posted, ......). In this case, reshaping is not a good idea and solution, cause the cliente or the art director says: No!!!

I think we have no general rules for this matter. Each fashion work have a particular target, and the photographer and the art director have to speak with the retoucher and explain it to him/her, cause the retoucher donīt know it.

Last week I have been in Egypt in a fashion editorial working with a photographer and, in this case, we have been shooting with a wideangle lens very close to the models face. Is this correct? No. But the photographer was trying to get a particular picture, cause the model have a very special shape in her face. The result: fantastic.

So, no strict rules in this matter. Sometimes, rules finish where the creativity begins.

Sorry for my English.
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Hallo,
now I will post my last attempt with a "normal" style

Best regards, Udo
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

next retouch by me:

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img...ad/1910657.jpg

Tell me what you think
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It depends.

I think Rudd did a very good work with this model, and I like a lot his result, the model looks great, better and so so atractive. Now, the question comes:
Was a good Idea reshaping the chin? In this case, yes.

If this retouch was for a client, here you have the "it depends". Like KR said, sometimes you have a model casting where you are looking for something (bones, the girl with the two teeth too separate i have posted, ......). In this case, reshaping is not a good idea and solution, cause the cliente or the art director says: No!!!

I think we have no general rules for this matter. Each fashion work have a particular target, and the photographer and the art director have to speak with the retoucher and explain it to him/her, cause the retoucher donīt know it.

Last week I have been in Egypt in a fashion editorial working with a photographer and, in this case, we have been shooting with a wideangle lens very close to the models face. Is this correct? No. But the photographer was trying to get a particular picture, cause the model have a very special shape in her face. The result: fantastic.

So, no strict rules in this matter. Sometimes, rules finish where the creativity begins.

Sorry for my English.
Thank you, Javier! That clears it up for me. And your English is probably better than mine. I speak Georgian.
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

JavierT! amazing work on your flickr. You mind to share how to do that kind of skin tone ? Thanks alot. I have no direction
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You have three private message.

And thanks a lot.

The best......JavierT

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JavierT! amazing work on your flickr. You mind to share how to do that kind of skin tone ? Thanks alot. I have no direction
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i got that. Thanks you JavierT
Oops! Thank you CMS for sharing too!
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My effort

My first attempt at a beauty retouch. Your comments needed!

CMS-thanks for providing the great pictures.
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Hi Everybody:

Here is my try to this picture.

I am still considering eliminate the flash Highlight in the glasses, probably better. Opinions are welcoming.

Thanks Again to Cristian Mihay (CMS) for this pic, and the others.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2479257...85279/sizes/l/
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Thanks s again for the great raw files CMS

Here' s my try on this one
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