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Old 05-16-2008, 01:59 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

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Not trying to be argumentative but I am curious to understand the ethics involved. What appears to be more of a commercial image rather then a portrait. Is it not alright to make changes to the bone structure? I feel that Ruuds first post on this thread with the exception of the bottom lip made her look more refine and attractive. Can anybody explain the do's and don't as far as the ethics side of the retouching business?
It depends.

I think Rudd did a very good work with this model, and I like a lot his result, the model looks great, better and so so atractive. Now, the question comes:
Was a good Idea reshaping the chin? In this case, yes.

If this retouch was for a client, here you have the "it depends". Like KR said, sometimes you have a model casting where you are looking for something (bones, the girl with the two teeth too separate i have posted, ......). In this case, reshaping is not a good idea and solution, cause the cliente or the art director says: No!!!

I think we have no general rules for this matter. Each fashion work have a particular target, and the photographer and the art director have to speak with the retoucher and explain it to him/her, cause the retoucher don´t know it.

Last week I have been in Egypt in a fashion editorial working with a photographer and, in this case, we have been shooting with a wideangle lens very close to the models face. Is this correct? No. But the photographer was trying to get a particular picture, cause the model have a very special shape in her face. The result: fantastic.

So, no strict rules in this matter. Sometimes, rules finish where the creativity begins.

Sorry for my English.
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Old 05-16-2008, 02:27 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Hallo,
now I will post my last attempt with a "normal" style

Best regards, Udo
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:09 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

next retouch by me:

http://digart.img.digart.pl/data/img...ad/1910657.jpg

Tell me what you think
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Old 05-16-2008, 07:18 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

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It depends.

I think Rudd did a very good work with this model, and I like a lot his result, the model looks great, better and so so atractive. Now, the question comes:
Was a good Idea reshaping the chin? In this case, yes.

If this retouch was for a client, here you have the "it depends". Like KR said, sometimes you have a model casting where you are looking for something (bones, the girl with the two teeth too separate i have posted, ......). In this case, reshaping is not a good idea and solution, cause the cliente or the art director says: No!!!

I think we have no general rules for this matter. Each fashion work have a particular target, and the photographer and the art director have to speak with the retoucher and explain it to him/her, cause the retoucher don´t know it.

Last week I have been in Egypt in a fashion editorial working with a photographer and, in this case, we have been shooting with a wideangle lens very close to the models face. Is this correct? No. But the photographer was trying to get a particular picture, cause the model have a very special shape in her face. The result: fantastic.

So, no strict rules in this matter. Sometimes, rules finish where the creativity begins.

Sorry for my English.
Thank you, Javier! That clears it up for me. And your English is probably better than mine. I speak Georgian.
JD
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Old 05-17-2008, 04:59 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

JavierT! amazing work on your flickr. You mind to share how to do that kind of skin tone ? Thanks alot. I have no direction
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:04 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

You have three private message.

And thanks a lot.

The best......JavierT

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JavierT! amazing work on your flickr. You mind to share how to do that kind of skin tone ? Thanks alot. I have no direction
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Old 05-17-2008, 05:13 AM
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i got that. Thanks you JavierT
Oops! Thank you CMS for sharing too!
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Old 05-18-2008, 01:21 AM
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My effort

My first attempt at a beauty retouch. Your comments needed!

CMS-thanks for providing the great pictures.
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Old 05-21-2008, 01:11 PM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Hi Everybody:

Here is my try to this picture.

I am still considering eliminate the flash Highlight in the glasses, probably better. Opinions are welcoming.

Thanks Again to Cristian Mihay (CMS) for this pic, and the others.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/2479257...85279/sizes/l/
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Old 05-22-2008, 11:35 AM
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Re: free to use 5 digital back raws!!!

Thanks s again for the great raw files CMS

Here' s my try on this one
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