[snook305]

Originally Posted by cricket1961

Snook

I can see where you are coming from.

However your examples are not that good.

Songwriters get credit listings on Song sheets, Lyric Sheets, Album covers and more.
Studios are also listed on wrappers for the cd's or album covers. As are producers, sound technicians, studio musicians, remixers, and more.

What Benny is saying is not new nor is it greedy. I am on the line about this as you will see in some of my older posts. I don't see it happening, but it would be nice if it did. I have seen some terrible photographs worked to death and ending up looking like something even the Photographer did not at first envision. In cases such as those it is clearly a collaboration between the two and in the majority of creative industries fair due is given.

Just a what if her to think about.

A photographer is hired by a ad agency or a Magazine to do a shoot for them. They tell the Photographer what they want and what they are looking for. The Photographer does a bang up job with the shoot and every one is pleased and thrilled at the results.
The raw materials are supplied by the ad agency/magazine art director and the Photographer makes them look nice together.

Shouldn't the Ad agency/Magazine get the credit for the image and not the Photographer? After all, all the Photographer did was put some life to the Agencies vision.

If not, then how is this different from a Photographer giving a raw file (or even a processed one) and handing it to a retoucher to make the Photographers vision become a reality?

Like I said, I am on the fence. I get credit sometimes and sometimes I don't. No biggie to me at this point in my career. I just like helping Photographers get further in their career.

Chris

You right probably but ad agency that I work with are always just ripping ads out of magazines and copying that.. Seriously!

I think if you have a "marriage" with a certain retoucher I could see your point a little.
And Agian that is if your both are creating something new or different.
But the basic retoucher, I do not see the point of even mentioning it..
There are a lot of guys that can do that... especially since the digital age where everyone is a photographer/Photoshopper....
Snook
Hope that makes sense.

[Dutch Rich]

Snook, what do you think is an appropriate way for a high end retoucher to show what he can do.

[cricket1961]

Originally Posted by snook305

You right probably but ad agency that I work with are always just ripping ads out of magazines and copying that.. Seriously!

I think if you have a "marriage" with a certain retoucher I could see your point a little.
And Agian that is if your both are creating something new or different.
But the basic retoucher, I do not see the point of even mentioning it..
There are a lot of guys that can do that... especially since the digital age where everyone is a photographer/Photoshopper....
Snook
Hope that makes sense.

Agreed on all points here Snook.

Chris