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Old 06-09-2008, 08:55 PM
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Removing Arm Hair

Hey I have some photos with a very pretty model but she is slightly olive skinned with some dark arm hair.

Is there a NON BLUR method to fix this?


Can I somehow select the hairs with some kind of channel calculations?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:33 PM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

There are many ways some of which may or may not be applicable, depending on the image. Can you upload a sample?
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Old 06-09-2008, 09:51 PM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

I suppose. Didn't want to, since I hate posting unfinished work

Just keep in mind it's about 50% done!
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Old 06-10-2008, 01:03 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Dual curve (Dogde and Burn) technique will work for it. but will take too much time.

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Old 06-10-2008, 02:20 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

yes i'm familiar with d/b.

need a more pragmatic solution.
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Old 06-10-2008, 02:25 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Use your healing brush and dust and scratches filter. Thats how i would do it. I wish i could go into details on h ow, but im so tired tonight. If nobody helps better by tomorrow night. i will post better details
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Old 06-10-2008, 06:20 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Man thats tough I would attempt to make new skin with a texture map and paint it on over the hair using a layer mask. Other than that low level pixel cloning but that would take hours.......
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:03 AM
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Hey I have some photos with a very pretty model but she is slightly olive skinned with some dark arm hair.

Is there a NON BLUR method to fix this?


Can I somehow select the hairs with some kind of channel calculations?


Many ways can be applied to remove arm hair. With channels: select that channel where contrast is prominent. Copy that channel. Select image->level for adjusting the dark color with the skin. Make selection. Now use brightness/contrast or color correction method to bring your desired effect.
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Old 06-10-2008, 07:22 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

If you want a good result, you are going to have to do the work. The method that Matthew suggests is a good one. Another one that often find useful is to create a new layer of the photo behind the first one, and offset it by a couple of pixels. The add a mask to the top layer, and paint on the mask with black to "erase" the hairs. The nice thing about doing it this way is, if you make a mistake and remove too much, you can paint it back in by painting with white. It helps to use a stylus if you can, as it really speeds up the work.
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Old 06-10-2008, 08:27 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

I know you said non blur, but you could try this:

1. Duplicate the background
2. Apply Dust & Scratches filter Radius 8, Threshold 5
3. Hide all mask, paint on mask with a soft white brush at about 30% opacity over the arm hair.

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Old 06-10-2008, 08:30 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Hi transoptic,

See the pictures below.

Here is my quick and simple workflow :

1. Healing with "Lighten Blending Mode"
2. Healing with "Darken Blending Mode"
3. Cloning with very low opacity.
4. Some Burn to mainting body countour.

Hope it helps to you.

Ash
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Old 06-10-2008, 11:08 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

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Dual curve (Dogde and Burn) technique will work for it. but will take too much time.

Ash
How much is too much. Seems to me, it will take exactly as much time as is required to do it right.
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

I took a shot at it using the healing brush. Took a sample from her chest and with a soft cloning healing brush just clicked away. Taking the sample from her chest matched the skin tone and dint blure. Then cloned the eges on the out side of the arms to get rid of the hair there. Finaly did a Doge and burn layer to put back in the shadows and highlights of the arms. My try took maybe 15 minutes but to ge the better look and do it right will take an hour or so.
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

for some reason didnt up load the picture but will try again
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Old 06-10-2008, 05:19 PM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

@transoptic:

Why not post a 100% detail of the arm(s)?
I guess that would be a better way to find out how to...
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:26 PM
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How much is too much. Seems to me, it will take exactly as much time as is required to do it right.


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It doesn't have to be right; it just can't look obviously wrong.

Us Chicagoans don't take kindly to New York contradiction



Anyway thanks for the replies and uploaded examples everyone. I'll get to work right away and post result!
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Old 06-10-2008, 09:58 PM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Hi there...

Below is a 5 minute job using the technique HERE simple and fast for this type of work.

I even over sharpened the picture as an example..hair is mostly gone but with shading and grain intact.

Butch
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Old 06-14-2008, 09:57 AM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Thanks for the replies and help.

I used mostly mtpfamily's method of sampling the chest. (Good thing she doesn't have chest hair ) I also used clone tool here in there using both a lighten and darken mode, then some PWL to fix the contours in the skin.
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Old 06-15-2008, 04:56 PM
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Re: Removing Arm Hair

Is she disable? as her left arm are very thin, or did you use the len under 50mm???
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