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Old 08-10-2008, 09:15 AM
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Re: D&B Video Tutorial

And there is one showing the other technique (soft-light layer + burn & dodge) already in this thread.

Unless thats wrong aswell?
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Old 08-10-2008, 10:44 AM
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Re: D&B Video Tutorial

There are about 3 different ways to set up your dodge and burn layers:

Use curves-
use a blank layer - Soft light mode
use a blank layer filled with 50% grey. Soft light mode

Use separate layers if you like. Use multiple layers if you need to.

There are even PS actions out there that will set up the layers for you.

Then paint on these layers with a very low opacity brush/flow brush.

There's nothing more to it than that.

This shouldn't cause mass confusion.

**The real skill is the painting. It is very time-consuming and can take real painting skills to even out the skin.

I admit I have neither the patience or the skill to do this very well. That's why I don't work on portraits.

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Old 08-10-2008, 11:17 AM
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Re: D&B Video Tutorial

I have tried these techniques in the past few months and I have to say I like curve layers the best--very little discoloration issue. Soft light layer on the other hand made the dodged areas look chalky and I had to paint back the skin color. smak, you are right about time consuming. It takes so long!
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Old 08-10-2008, 11:19 AM
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Thank you smak. No it isn't confusing.

I always use the curves method. At this moment, I'm testing the use a blank layer filled with 50% grey, Soft light mode method described in this thread. I notice using the x speed is a bit better compared to the curves method ... but ...

With the curves method, I can errase my mistakes easily by painting with black on the mask. How is this done with the 50% gray-technique? Painting with 50% grey 'color' doesn't work completely?
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:18 PM
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Sorry if I was harsh. It just seemed the layer set up had been discussed for so long.
Again, the real technique here is the painting, as any pro retoucher will say.

The layers don't do anything but sit there.
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Old 08-10-2008, 12:21 PM
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Thank you smak. No it isn't confusing.

I always use the curves method. At this moment, I'm testing the use a blank layer filled with 50% grey, Soft light mode method described in this thread. I notice using the x speed is a bit better compared to the curves method ... but ...

With the curves method, I can errase my mistakes easily by painting with black on the mask. How is this done with the 50% gray-technique? Painting with 50% grey 'color' doesn't work completely?
Painting with 50% gray at 100% opacity and Hardness should ....
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Old 08-10-2008, 02:49 PM
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Painting with 50% gray at 100% opacity and Hardness should ....
Hmm, not it doesn't work for me ... or is L*=50 not 50% gray? (Lab space)

see the attachement.

-I filled a page with L*ab 50, 0 0
-made a new layer and filled with 50% gray/soft-light and set the layer also on soft-light
- painted with a brush (white/black) and tried to remove it again with 100% flow and opacity/L*=50. Left softbrush, right 100% hardness.
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Old 08-10-2008, 03:31 PM
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Re: D&B Video Tutorial

I think that personally, I learn new techniques faster seeing how the procedure is done in real time in a video. What I don't care for are youtube tutorials where the presenter has to put distracting music and runs through the lesson without talking about what they are doing. In classes, instructors are not usually playing music when they are teaching, at least in my experience. Thanks for any tutorials though
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Old 08-10-2008, 06:12 PM
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Re: D&B Video Tutorial

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Hmm, not it doesn't work for me ... or is L*=50 not 50% gray? (Lab space)

see the attachement.

-I filled a page with L*ab 50, 0 0
-made a new layer and filled with 50% gray/soft-light and set the layer also on soft-light
- painted with a brush (white/black) and tried to remove it again with 100% flow and opacity/L*=50. Left softbrush, right 100% hardness.

Nope 54 is on my system see the attached jpg of my dialog box. I tried it in lab and rgb modes worked great for me..... can always just convert the layer normal and sample a clean unedited area and check the value.

HSB 0 0 50
rgb 128 128 128
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Old 08-11-2008, 01:19 AM
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Nope 54 is on my system see the attached jpg of my dialog box. I tried it in lab and rgb modes worked great for me..... can always just convert the layer normal and sample a clean unedited area and check the value.

HSB 0 0 50
rgb 128 128 128
Thanks, yes it works. RGB 128,128,128 is the value.
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