Fake lashes, please help - 1st retouch

[maulrat]

Hello all. I am very new to photography; just got my 1st DSLR 3 weeks ago. I really like the processing done by many of the members here and am seeking some advice. This is my first attempt at retouching. I have an old copy of CS2 so my Photoshop is a little outdated. The really big concern I have is when I take my photo down to size, I loose the realism in the fake lashes. Does anyone have suggestions as to how I can reduce the effects of "baby doll" painted looking eyelashes? Thanks

Original; exposure corrected.
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3164/...bc90bddb_o.jpg

Retouched & Resized; lashes need major help
http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2199/...b4002b5a_o.jpg

100% of Retouched; eyes
http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3235/...e7344dfc_o.jpg


Thank you,

-rat

[swarbees]

Even the upclose lashes look a little "baby doll" to me. Lashes are not just varied in size but direction --here are fake lashes that mimic the way eyelashes look--
http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...sigh=11bfprfmv

This link illustrates real lashes-
http://images.search.yahoo.com/image...sigh=1189birka

Try putting some "messy" lashes in to see if that changes the look ---Just a thought
Sandi

[maulrat]

Thanks Sandi. I'll try that when I get home =)

[Verywierd]

Study some real lashes and maybe try drawing with pencil and paper until they look right before applying them to your image. Lashes don't usually grow straight upwards. See attached.

[maulrat]

The model had nearly no visible eye lashes at that distance. I had to use a premade eyelash brush, then transform and warp it onto her eyes. This was tough. Maybe I should go back and rewarp the lashes to flow in a more realistic direction.

[Verywierd]

Originally Posted by maulrat

The model had nearly no visible eye lashes at that distance. I had to use a premade eyelash brush, then transform and warp it onto her eyes. This was tough. Maybe I should go back and rewarp the lashes to flow in a more realistic direction.

Maybe you need more lash brushes. Have a look here:

http://www.brushes.obsidiandawn.com/sets/eyelashes.htm

Also at that distance, you might try reducing the opacity of the eyelash layer(s) just a bit. They should not be too clear and black.

[maulrat]

Originally Posted by Verywierd

Maybe you need more lash brushes. Have a look here:

http://www.brushes.obsidiandawn.com/sets/eyelashes.htm

Also at that distance, you might try reducing the opacity of the eyelash layer(s) just a bit. They should not be too clear and black.

Yeah, those are the brushes I used on this photo. I will try using/manipulating the lash images instead of using the brush tool.

[Verywierd]

I loaded one of the lash brush sets from that site and very quickly painted one on a layer, used transform to fit it to her eye, duplicated the layer, flipped it over, rotated to match the other eye. Layers at 70% opacity.

[maulrat]

Nice. Thanks VDub.

[0lBaldy]

Making a eyelash brush (4 free eyelash pic. included) (Click here)
Use brush either black or the color of the natural lashes @100% opacity (to be adjusted lower later) on a new softlight layer then use the transform tool to move and shape the brush to the eye.

OR

Use the "Freeform Pen Tool" to draw your own lashes (click here).
Drawing on a new softlight layer

[Nanls]

Hey rat!
Welcome. Have been swamped so my first post in a while. The best way although time consuming is to use paths to create the lashes and then to stroke the paths with a small brush the color of the natural lashes (which are varied). Follow the natural lash line. Do this until you are happy with the set for one eye then g blur (depending on the res maybe .03 to 1 and lower the opacity.
Do the same for the other eye on another layer.
Hope this helps. (Also helps to tweak the brush so the tip is smaller)
You'll get fast at this with practice.
Hopes this helps.
~Nancy
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[maulrat]

So how does this look? Getting any better?

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3025/...d7a4795b_o.jpg

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3159/...73417d42_o.jpg

[Nanls]

I found this tutorial:
http://www.webdesign.org/web/photosh...hes.14094.html
Remember that natural lashes often cross each (see tutorial picture of bottom lashes) so don't make every lash perfect for a more realistic look.
Good luck!
~Nancy

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[Verywierd]

Looking good.