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D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

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Old 10-04-2008, 05:17 PM
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

Hubba and Wierd

I have actually had to give my softlight layer as a print to photographers who had seen it
and thought it was a piece of art. Especially models faces.
I agree it looks cool and very much like a pencil sketch.

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Old 10-04-2008, 06:35 PM
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

Why don't you post one of the older ones Chris? In this way hopefully it will at least frighten off the "cant be bothered" crowd
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Couldn't find an older more intricate one. But this is about halfway there on a image.
Compression takes sits toll on the detail.

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Old 10-05-2008, 11:42 PM
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Thats insane, was all that done by hand or was any of it done with selections via luminosity?
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Old 10-06-2008, 02:36 AM
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hahaha Chris.. you need models with better skin dude (or not, as the time you get to spend on that is hopefully billable

Nice example though Chris. And shows quite well how much detail you will go into with D/B techniques.

And my bet is 100% wacom
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Old 10-06-2008, 04:27 AM
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

Vapour

Its all by hand. Some of the large ares(not large strokes) are done with a curve move via normal. No luminosity, I'm not a big fan of luminosity until it gets fixed.

Hubba
I wouldn't mind a model with much cleaner skin. But you would be surprised at how clean the skin of this one actually was.

And yes 100% Wacom. I don't even have a mouse connected to the computer. Not for a least 7 years.

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Old 10-06-2008, 04:54 AM
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

Yeah its the drawback of high quality lenses, medium format/full format cameras and maybe harsh contrasting lighting.

And speaking of that, i was curious, how often is high detail D&B techniques used on low-grade sourcematerial such as from 10MP images (40D, D80 etc). I shoot with both digital backs and with DSLRS and i am having a hard time seeing that the resolution at those level will actually benefit from a pixel by pixel retouching. I use it ofcourse for larger visible pores and luminance shifts, but the ammount of detail shown on your layer and others that ive seen do look like its a higher quality original aswell.

Reason im asking is that i suspect a lot of people are trying to do a miracle d&B cure to source material that really wont benefit much from that approach (apart from being extremely slow , and in the end it might even make it look blurred and with less texture than originally.
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Old 10-06-2008, 09:52 AM
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

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No luminosity, I'm not a big fan of luminosity until it gets fixed.
How is it broken?
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Old 10-06-2008, 10:23 AM
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

i think it may be this: http://www.alternativephotoshop.com/....php?f=14&t=12 he is refering to.
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Re: D&B Actual techniques which professional uses.

Hubba

Nice link. I had not seen it before and it certainly explains it way better than I could technically. The bottom portion, with the grey and blue, is more my speed, but it illustrates perfectly what has been accepted(and for the most part ignored) for years.
It has bugged me since 1997 or so. It kind of frightens me to at times see people wielding it like a hammer on some images without checking end points etc.

I fully expect that if I am going to do a move utilizing a luminosity setting that I should not be seeing any shift in hue or otherwise, no matter how small or easily worked around. There are high hope for a true curve fix in the future though! : )

Vapour, I hope Hubba's link helped. It was much more eloquent about the issue than I could have been.

Hubba,

I do a lot of d&b on 5d images. The majority are Canon DS MrkII. But I had a client years ago, Melvin Sokolsky who used a 6 megapixel camera only.
It can be done to lower res images (camera res, not ppi) if done with the correct brushes etc. And yes it does go faster on those files.

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