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Old 10-27-2008, 04:24 PM
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Lots of questions for 1 image.

I have to ask lots of questions on this issue . I would like to do this myself but am not quite sure how to approach this.

Ok I have a source image which is a psd file with no layers in it but its high quality which is good.

I have been asked to do the following.
1. Fix typos - So I was wondering what fonts are being used.
I can see that there are 3 diff fonts but not what ones.

2. Add or remove other items. I am guessing I would just do patch tool and healing brush over an area which already contains an item then select and paste the new item into exisiting page ?

3. Change the color of the background . Not sure what to do here? Color range?

In the case of changing that background color would it be easier to just make a new page and use a gradient and then select the items from existing image and paste into new page? Also is that color background done by using a gradient and then eraser tool to make the swoop shapes in there?

Thanks for any help.

This is a sample of the image I will be working with.

http://i254.photobucket.com/albums/h.../cropped02.jpg
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Old 10-28-2008, 12:18 AM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

Wrong forum or what?
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Old 10-28-2008, 01:13 AM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

a) slap the person who made a print document in Photoshop.
b) Cut all the items out and make a new document in Illustrator or Indesign or whatever.
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Old 10-28-2008, 10:41 PM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

Here's what I would do:

1. Type - If there are only one or two typos, copy a letter from elsewhere and use it make the fix. You'll have to blend it into the background gradation, but that shouldn't be a big deal. If the changes are extensive, clone out and re-set all the type. You'll drive yourself crazy trying to match exact fonts, so just get as close as you can with the fonts you have available.

2. Replacing items - Yup, no easy way out. I'd use the clone tool, actually. Patch and healing brush are unpredictable on large areas, tending to pick up stray colors. Just take your time.

3. Change color of background - Make sure this is your last step, you don't want to have to re-do it. Copy your blue channel into an Alpha channel and use it to create a mask. The blue channel in this image has the least amount of background color, so using Levels or Curves you can almost completely knock it out while still keeping most of the other elements. Then, go in and manually add some of the things you lost (table legs, etc.). That will take a little time, but don't go crazy. Simple color shift are pretty forgiving, so your mask won't need to be absolutely perfect.

Once you have that, use it to select the background for the adjustment layer of your choice. One of my personal favorites is Hue/Saturation, with Colorize checked.

Hope that helps.

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Old 10-29-2008, 08:04 AM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

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a) slap the person who made a print document in Photoshop.
b) Cut all the items out and make a new document in Illustrator or Indesign or whatever.
Pardon me for jumping in here with an aside, but, your comment aroused my curiousity especially since I am not familiar with Illustrator. What/why use Illustrator rather than Photoshop for print docs? I'm not being facetious, I honestly don't understand and hope that you can clear this up for me.
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Old 10-29-2008, 10:12 AM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

Use Indesign people.

You place everything on different layers, you put the text on seperate layers.

This has a couple of advantages:

1. You're not actually placing the images in your document, they're linked to, so if someone wants a move them around, make 'em bigger, smaller, replace one etc, they can just use the image files.

2. The text stays editable, and when packaged correctly, you supply the fonts as well, ensuring that everyone can edit the text if needed.

3. You can make print ready PDF's so you can supply directly to a printer.

4. it's the industry standard for doing layouts (screw you Quark)

5. Photoshop is mostly for images (PHOTO-shop, get it?)

6. Illustrator is mostly used for illustrations, and or weird text effects, which yields tiny vecotr files, instead of 4 gig photoshop files.

7. Size matters: you upload the images once, then if the layout changes, you change your Indesign file, and re-upload that, so that instead of uploading a massive Photoshop file again, you're uploading a tiny InDesign file.

8. It's tons O'Fun!

9. Also everything is placed in seperate boxes, so if you want to replace an image with something else, just click on the box and place the new image TADAA!!!
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Old 10-29-2008, 11:06 AM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

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What/why use Illustrator rather than Photoshop for print docs?
basically, the answer is "Vector Graphics"

Wikipedia has a nice article about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

Photoshop can also do vector graphics (including type), but it is certainly not a page layout program like InDesign.

There could be any number of reasons why the poster wants or needs to do the job in Photoshop:

Maybe the client requested it be done in Photoshop.
Maybe the poster doesn't have InDesign.
Maybe the client doesn't have InDesign.
Maybe the image is 2400dpi and has plenty of resolution for type.
Etc., etc.

Chastizing is neither necessary, nor helpful.

Scott
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Old 10-29-2008, 02:53 PM
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

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Use Indesign people.

You place everything on different layers, you put the text on seperate layers.

This has a couple of advantages:.....!
Thank you for taking the time to explain this, I really appreciate it.
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Re: Lots of questions for 1 image.

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basically, the answer is "Vector Graphics"

Wikipedia has a nice article about it:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vector_graphics
Thanks for replying and taking the time to direct me to the link. I've got a better understanding now.
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