RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Photo Retouching "Improving" photos, post-production, correction, etc.

Pictorialism

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #1  
Old 01-08-2009, 05:07 PM
judyn judyn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wimberley, TX
Posts: 6
Pictorialism

I did a search of the forum and didn't find anything. I'm also not sure what the correct section of this site would be. I'm really not interested in emulating "natural-media painting techniques", which is what the "photo-based art" forum seems to be about. I am interested in making photo based art from photographs.

I have been interested for some time in pictorialism. Which was done, of course, in the darkroom and in black and white. It lost out early in the 20th century to trying to make photographs look "like perfect photographs."

It was brought to my mind again when I found a book in our local library of color pictures by Lynn Geesaman. You can see some of her work here:

http://www.edelmangallery.com/geesaman-main.htm

She also works in the darkroom but I'm wondering how to go about trying to do something similar to her work. Offhand, I would say a bit of orton maybe after a bit of simplify. Is anyone else interested in this type of technique and what would you do to make something similar using a computer?

Thanks!
Judy
Reply With Quote top
  #2  
Old 01-08-2009, 06:05 PM
Swampy's Avatar
Swampy Swampy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Swamps of Florida
Posts: 4,418
Re: Pictorialism

Looks like a lot of soft focus and depth of focus shots to me. If there is any production work added it looks like selective bluring, vignetting and perhaps some dodge and burn. I don't see too much simplify
Reply With Quote top
  #3  
Old 01-08-2009, 06:14 PM
judyn judyn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wimberley, TX
Posts: 6
Re: Pictorialism

I thougth simplify because when I look at leaves against the sky there is very little detail, but maybe it went away with lack of focus.

here's a quote from the book:

"I almost always start by backing away from the predominantn color, which is usually green. Let's say, just for example, if you back away from green, then the opposite of that in the darkroom is magenta. I keep taking away green and adding magenta until, oh, it looks bizarre. But just at that edge sometimes it takes on a painterly quality because all the color relationships are right."
Reply With Quote top
  #4  
Old 01-09-2009, 02:45 AM
r_dg r_dg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 78
Re: Pictorialism

it's not difficult to so something like that in PS, i've achieved something pretty similar by just blurring and using different blending modes, such as multiply, screen, hardlight, softlight.
and some adjustment layers like hue&saturation, color balance.
look at the examples i made using all of these techniques.
of you have any question just ask.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg 1.jpg (94.1 KB, 68 views)
File Type: jpg 2.jpg (88.4 KB, 71 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #5  
Old 01-09-2009, 09:10 AM
Swampy's Avatar
Swampy Swampy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Swamps of Florida
Posts: 4,418
Re: Pictorialism

Excellent, r_dg! A little d&b and selective sharpening and I think you have it! Love the color one.
Reply With Quote top
  #6  
Old 01-09-2009, 11:25 AM
judyn judyn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wimberley, TX
Posts: 6
Re: Pictorialism

Good job, r_dg! Your hints weren't enough for me because I'm such a novice compared to you guys, but here's my try.

Swampy, I was looking at some of your tutorials yesterday. Fantastic job!

I did Orton by making a new layer in screen mode, copying that layer and doing a gaussian blur of 50 (original size a bit over 3000 pixels) and setting the mode to multiply. This was bright and dark, which is not the aim here, but maybe suitably blurry.

Lynn changed the colors, so I merged visible and reduce green and play with the other colors using color balance until it looked still reasonable and maybe similar to Lynn's. Then I lightened it with levels.

This isn't it, but here's my best so far:
Attached Images
File Type: jpg pictorialism-1.jpg (88.9 KB, 52 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #7  
Old 01-09-2009, 12:35 PM
Swampy's Avatar
Swampy Swampy is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: The Swamps of Florida
Posts: 4,418
Re: Pictorialism

Excellent judyn!
Reply With Quote top
  #8  
Old 01-09-2009, 01:02 PM
r_dg r_dg is offline
Member
 
Join Date: May 2008
Posts: 78
Re: Pictorialism

you did a great job judyn! keep it up
Reply With Quote top
  #9  
Old 01-09-2009, 06:09 PM
judyn judyn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wimberley, TX
Posts: 6
Re: Pictorialism

I don't think that's quite the effect I want but I wanted to have an idea of how it can be done. Thanks for your help and support!
Reply With Quote top
  #10  
Old 01-09-2009, 08:21 PM
judyn judyn is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: Wimberley, TX
Posts: 6
Re: Pictorialism

Here's another one. This is Topaz Simplify BuzSim followed by Orton and some color balance. The colors are more natural here, less like Lynn Geesaman.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg Goliad tree 2.jpg (97.2 KB, 29 views)
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:59 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved