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Old 04-15-2009, 10:51 AM
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New Technique - Critique Requested

Hi guys,

Just finished this shot, would appreciate any feedback.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/...f63a1a3f_b.jpg

Many thanks!
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:11 PM
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Re: New Technique - Critique Requested

for me, tatoo looks fake )
nice stigmata by the way))
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Old 04-15-2009, 12:34 PM
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Hi guys,

Just finished this shot, would appreciate any feedback.

http://farm4.static.flickr.com/3553/...f63a1a3f_b.jpg

Many thanks!
Feedback depends on what the original goal of the photo is/was, longside. Maybe you want to share that with us?
That guy needs a tan badly.
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Old 04-16-2009, 02:53 AM
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Re: New Technique - Critique Requested

Thanks for the feedback.

Re: the tattoo, the one on his arm is real, the one on the chest is PS. I used a displacement map to set the text, but looking back i think it needs fading just a tad.

@W.Smith I just wanted to make a play on the whole religious thing, so the guys is meant to be satan. If you look carefully there is a 666 and the tattoo on the chest is an exert from the book of revelation. Also, behind him in the background is the skull of a goat.

Basically the quote says that the beast will fool us all, and what better way to do that then impersonate christ. It;s quite theological I;m afraid!

In terms of the actual shoot, the guy was lit with a strobe fired through a softbox.

PP was de-sat, high pass, and then some work with soft light and luminosity blend modes. The shot was then d n b'd quite extensively.

Hope this info helps!
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Old 04-16-2009, 07:23 AM
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Re: New Technique - Critique Requested

he looks too nice to be Satan it's his pose, face and the rest which doesn't look in "satany" way... especially eyes. I would never think that Satan might have blue eyes
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:34 AM
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he looks too nice to be Satan it's his pose, face and the rest which doesn't look in "satany" way... especially eyes. I would never think that Satan might have blue eyes
Agree. Plus Satan and stigmata don't jive.
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Old 04-16-2009, 10:41 AM
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Re: New Technique - Critique Requested

@sKauskas and W.Smith

lol, you're both missing the point! Prehaps if you could read the tat on the chest it would make a little more sense. The exert from the book of revelation basically states that due to the power of the beast, satan will be able to deceive man into worshipping him.

Thus the stigmata, what better way than to make man worship you than to make them think that you are christ. Satan isn't going to get much support if he's a big red dude with horns sticking out of his head who goes around killing people!

whereas a ripped dude, with nice blue eyes and a six pack....I appreciate he could do with tan!!

I appreciate that the rationale behind the shot isn't exact;y the clearest, but sometimes the story behind the shot is more for individual interpretation.

I would love some feedback on the post processing though! ;-)
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Old 04-16-2009, 11:33 AM
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Re: New Technique - Critique Requested

well, Satan wouldn't wear a tattoo that told what he was up to either.
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Old 04-17-2009, 02:55 AM
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well, Satan wouldn't wear a tattoo that told what he was up to either.
agreed, but I have to provide some indication in the shot to try and help set the context!?

Anyway, does anyone have any comments on the retouching?
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Old 04-26-2009, 09:50 PM
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Re: New Technique - Critique Requested

longside1,

It is really hard to comment on the art work - nothing is obviously done wrong - the struggle is execution given the intent. This is my take on that ...

Lower the goats head so that the mans head covers the dark middle of the goats head - the hair blends into it some anyway and adds visual confusion to the image. I know you wanted to show the whole skull, but I think is the horn part that drives this symbol and having the skull be more of an extension of the man instead of something on the wall behind him should communicate better.

Having the glowey I have been photo-shopped look makes it look like a photo exercise instead on an execution of an idea - the idea would, I think, resonate more if everything had a natural texture and looked more real. Also the glowed loss of shadow detail just makes it look like filters were used ...

So I guess my feedback is that the look needs to resonate with the message to really work and is probably the challenge in this one.

No right or wrong in stuff like this, just our different interpretations ...

Hope this is a help,
Roger
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