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Old 04-26-2009, 08:29 AM
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Unhappy workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

http://marktucker.com/Artist.asp?Art...&Akey=MPEGN7AE

see the portrait series called ICS (international community school)

Incredible.

Small softbox with tungsten light and wide open aperture.

Have tried in PS:
Mild USM (20,50,0) to get some 'pop'.
Col bal to remove red & blue.
Desaturate.
Levels.

- Can't even come close.

Any idea ?

Knarfi

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Old 04-27-2009, 03:19 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

no ideas but that work is superb, thanks for the link
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Old 04-27-2009, 03:31 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

Sterlinimages, agreed, makes me think about hanging up my camera.
knarfi, from the images in that group I'm not able to make sence of your list of what you've tried. Sounds more like your trying to make the black and whites in another group.
Stay away from desat. Try the black and white control, even if your not trying ror bw and just want to manipulate saturation. Use it on another layer set to luminance blend mode to adjust contrast. I think the colors come from the vibrance tool in photoshop cs4 and lightroom.
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Old 04-27-2009, 06:30 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

Thanks for replying.
I am very surprised that this question did not elicit more response from the group.
I assume everyone thinks it's straightforward and easy as 1 2 3 - but it's definitely not. Because it doesn't look gimmicky or 'effectsy' everyone thinks they can do it.
Until they try.........
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:28 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

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http://marktucker.com/Artist.asp?Art...&Akey=MPEGN7AE

see the portrait series called ICS (international community school)

Incredible.

Small softbox with tungsten light and wide open aperture.

Have tried in PS:
Mild USM (20,50,0) to get some 'pop'.
Col bal to remove red & blue.
Desaturate.
Levels.

- Can't even come close.

Any idea ?

Knarfi

I have always thought Mark Tucker's work was superb. It looks like he's using strobe in an Octabank (very large octaganol softbox ) and a side reflector. Simple and beautiful.
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Old 04-27-2009, 07:48 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

To me, those pics popped.
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Old 04-27-2009, 09:18 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

They sure do pop.

And you're right about the octabank (a small one positioned close) & reflector, but you can do that all you want and try every variable of distance from subject and diffuser, and still not get the right col, contrast etc. - there's something almost 3D about them, and soooo smoth, and the skin col is like a porcelain china doll - note the lack of red in the skin.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:12 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

Those are really great, they look to be the least manipulated of all his work. I think the basis is just very careful color balance and exposure/lighting to begin with. He's also dealing with the perfect skin of kids. I'm always amazed at how great kids photograph (at least technically), a lot less work than adults. All that goes along way before you even get to PS. I'm not saying anyone can do it, just that his technique and expertise in the photographing process is probably the major factor here, rather than post work. I would bet he did quite a bit of testing before beginning the project. They all look very consistent, not like he was figuring things out as he went along. He has a lot of amazing photos.
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Old 04-27-2009, 10:20 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

....and probably the larger format of a hasselblad or rollei accounts for much of the superior tonal / dynamic range - as compared to what is achievable on even a full-frame 35 camera
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Old 04-27-2009, 11:51 PM
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Re: workflow for these exceptional kids portraits

Knarfi,
Looking at the portraits again, I was thinking the same thing, especially considering the format of the photos.
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