RetouchPRO

Go Back   RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching
Register Blogs FAQ Site Nav Search Today's Posts Mark Forums Read


Photo Retouching "Improving" photos, post-production, correction, etc.

Increasing Saturation Technique

Reply
 
Thread Tools
  #21  
Old 07-08-2009, 10:15 AM
DrisOne DrisOne is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2009
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Posts: 9
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

In that case vapour, I would indeed go into the LAB color space, this is of course unless you have Lightroom in which case I would most likely use LR for Color Corrections, but if you are in Photoshop, I would go into LAB, target the A & B channels and bring up a curve, then I would take my Light & Dark points and simply move them Left 1-3 clicks and then the bottom respectively Right 1-3 clicks, then save it as an action. It'll give your color a saturation boost w/out effecting the luminosity values and/or increase the possibility of clipping colors.

This seems to work for me if I need to increase saturation in photoshop. Give it a shot, you might like it or find someone else's technique works better in your case. But again, I'm using Lightroom these days for situations like this.

Daniel
Reply With Quote top
  #22  
Old 07-08-2009, 02:51 PM
SEP Studios's Avatar
SEP Studios SEP Studios is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 25
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

Quote:
Originally Posted by vapour View Post
Would you use Curves with the mask you are talking about to increase saturation.
Unless you want to isolate a specific color (the yellow shirt, for instance), you really don't need a mask. You can isolate any part of the full range of colors using Curves.

That doesn't mean I don't use Hue/Saturation when necessary. But if I need to adjust a "dead" looking fleshtone, for example, I'll use Curves to bump up the red and yellow (thereby reducing the blue). If I get a hotspot, I'll simply back off the highlight and bump the midtone.

Curves is not as intuitive for adjusting saturation, but gives you much more control.

Btw, I'm sure you noticed in the Hue/Saturation window that you can adjust individual color ranges.

Scott
Reply With Quote top
  #23  
Old 07-08-2009, 03:18 PM
SEP Studios's Avatar
SEP Studios SEP Studios is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Phoenix, Arizona
Posts: 25
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

For those recommending using Lab color, a few caveats:

1. You can't switch back to RGB without flattening the file, so once you go Lab you have to stay in that colorspace to keep your adjustment layers.

2. Also, PS limits some features when in Lab space (including a number of filters), probably because their calculations are based on the RGB gamut.

3. Lab must be converted back to RGB for web, or CMYK for printing.

That said, Lab can do some interesting things, it's worth playing around with.

Scott
Reply With Quote top
  #24  
Old 07-08-2009, 03:43 PM
DonJ DonJ is offline
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Posts: 8
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

Thanks SEP for the tip on a Curves layer set to the "saturation" blending method. It was, for me, a blinding glimpse of the obvious. I've always used the Hue & Saturation layer to tweek color and adjust saturation but I like the curves method much, much, better. The control is outstanding.
Reply With Quote top
  #25  
Old 07-08-2009, 04:35 PM
Graphics23's Avatar
Graphics23 Graphics23 is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2006
Location: Lynn, Massachusetts
Posts: 123
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

Done in RGB with H/S layer and Blend If sliders.

No masking at all.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg IncreaseSatAfter_G23.jpg (50.4 KB, 19 views)
Reply With Quote top
  #26  
Old 07-09-2009, 01:39 AM
mikedimples's Avatar
mikedimples mikedimples is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hollywood, California
Posts: 238
Cool Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

Why not just crank up the vibrance?

Here's two vibrance adjustment layers stacked, with the second ones red toned down with blend if sliders.
Attached Images
File Type: jpg vibrance-x2.jpg (54.8 KB, 14 views)

Last edited by mikedimples; 07-09-2009 at 01:45 AM.
Reply With Quote top
  #27  
Old 07-09-2009, 02:00 AM
mikedimples's Avatar
mikedimples mikedimples is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Hollywood, California
Posts: 238
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

Nevermind, it's too much saturation in places. The other techniques look better.
Reply With Quote top
  #28  
Old 07-09-2009, 12:32 PM
Markzebra's Avatar
Markzebra Markzebra is offline
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: London, UK
Posts: 718
Re: Increasing Saturation Technique

vapour…

Quote:
if you were to simply apply a Hue / Saturation adjustment layer over the entire image and increase saturation the difference feels cheap.
• In CS4 there is a new adjustment which will do a better job - its called "vibrance" - look at the channel histograms and you will see its doing a better job. The Saturation slider in here also does a different job to the slider in hue/sat, which is actually one of the most damaging adjustments

• In LAB there is a way to increase saturation more naturally - steepening both the A and B channels in Curves, leaving the L channel -

• Selective Color or blended curves are better ways to control saturation than hue/sat because they can force detail onto the 'unwanted' channel, leaving things more subtle and like you say less 'cheap'. Chances are you need to control values separately.
Reply With Quote top
Reply

  RetouchPRO > Technique > Photo Retouching


Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
 
Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is Off
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off


Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
What is this Photographic Technique Called? Donamai Photo Retouching 25 08-24-2012 06:23 PM
Fine Art Technique _ManWithNoName_ Photo Retouching 38 02-20-2011 02:18 PM
Vibrance Versus Saturation gmitchel Photo Retouching 0 01-28-2009 10:54 PM
Skin Smoothing Technique (Again) Novi Photo Retouching 10 10-16-2008 04:25 PM
Photograph Technique Puzzle booklady History, Conservation, and Repair 4 01-17-2008 07:50 AM


All times are GMT -6. The time now is 05:20 AM.


Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2017, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd.
SEO by vBSEO ©2011, Crawlability, Inc.
Copyright © 2016 Doug Nelson. All Rights Reserved