This Skin Texture (Brush or Pattern)??

[PhiladelphiaPro]

Hi,

the question at hand is pretty simple but I can never seem to find a direct answer. It's clear that this person skin was not this pourous or perfect because I see what seems to be the exact same texture (which I'm looking to achieve), on a ton of retouched work. Does anyone know how I can achieve the texture?

Thanks in advance.

[Calbeee]

i want to find out too, skin retouch is so hard to master :S

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by PhiladelphiaPro

Hi,

the question at hand is pretty simple but I can never seem to find a direct answer. It's clear that this person skin was not this pourous or perfect because I see what seems to be the exact same texture (which I'm looking to achieve), on a ton of retouched work. Does anyone know how I can achieve the texture?

Thanks in advance.

Sorry to disappoint u... there's no brush or pattern there.

Big camera
Right lens
GOOD skin work
D&B

the first one is a bit too sharp for my taste. But good non the less.

xx

PS: It'd be very very polite to credit the photographer/s website/s u took the sample pictures from

[PhiladelphiaPro]

Not to be argumentative; I'd like to believe your response but I just don't although; I could be wrong. The texture exhibited in the first shot is a texture that I recognize from many many high end retouches so I can't believe that every models skin is textured like that after a couple hours of healing and D&B.

I merely did a google search for High End Rouching Techniques and clicked the images and those were amoung a few that I liked. Didn't bother to get photographer credit because I wasn't really interested in it.

Thanks for responding.

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by PhiladelphiaPro

Not to be argumentative; I'd like to believe your response but I just don't although; I could be wrong. The texture exhibited in the first shot is a texture that I recognize from many many high end retouches so I can't believe that every models skin is textured like that after a couple hours of healing and D&B.

I merely did a google search for High End Rouching Techniques and clicked the images and those were amoung a few that I liked. Didn't bother to get photographer credit because I wasn't really interested in it.

Thanks for responding.

It doesn't matter if you are interested or not, you are POSTING another person's WORK - credit is mandatory

About texture:
http://fc06.deviantart.com/fs38/f/20...3d65b0164e.jpg

u can see in the before, the skin texture IS THERE

or this one: http://fc02.deviantart.com/fs21/f/20...iaTaffarel.jpg

[Nienna]

The skin texture is all hers, no texture brushes.

D&B and a good camera really...

[Calbeee]

Originally Posted by PhiladelphiaPro

Not to be argumentative; I'd like to believe your response but I just don't although; I could be wrong. The texture exhibited in the first shot is a texture that I recognize from many many high end retouches so I can't believe that every models skin is textured like that after a couple hours of healing and D&B.

I merely did a google search for High End Rouching Techniques and clicked the images and those were amoung a few that I liked. Didn't bother to get photographer credit because I wasn't really interested in it.

Thanks for responding.

when ur showing other's work, u have to put credit
dats wut shes saying

[LloydM]

Originally Posted by PhiladelphiaPro

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I merely did a google search for High End Rouching Techniques and clicked the images and those were amoung a few that I liked. Didn't bother to get photographer credit because I wasn't really interested in it. Thanks for responding.

Since you did use thier work / photo here it would have been appropriate to credit them.........

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by PhiladelphiaPro

I merely did a google search for High End Rouching Techniques and clicked the images and those were amoung a few that I liked. Didn't bother to get photographer credit because I wasn't really interested in it.

PhiladelphiaPro, There is a reason this site is called RetouchPRO... a lot of us are Professionals and have copyrighted works on the web and we are very interested in people who use our work without permission and are not even courteous enough to give us any credit...

If you are PhiladelphiaPro... then you should know a PRO does not use another PROs work

Please be interested enough to try and keep yourself and RetouchPRO out of trouble by reading our FAQs...:

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[Godmother]

Originally Posted by 0lBaldy

Welcome to RetouchPRO Hope you enjoy your stay here

I don't think he cares... he's off to another forum looking for those brushes...

oh I'm a bit biter today

[FelixTheCat]

In any case there IS a way to put texture back in with a HighPass Method I think it is called.
So the answer of Good Camera etc.. is not the ONLY answer.
Many retouchers put a textured layer, on a High pass layer, on for the skin to have that look the poster was looking for.
I persoanlly never use it but it does work and many do use it by the way.
Felix

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by FelixTheCat

In any case there IS a way to put texture back in with a HighPass Method I think it is called.
So the answer of Good Camera etc.. is not the ONLY answer.
Many retouchers put a textured layer, on a High pass layer, on for the skin to have that look the poster was looking for.
I persoanlly never use it but it does work and many do use it by the way.
Felix

not for those samples

THAT texture was there to begin with

Was there a high pass layer over to sharpen the texture? Maybe, but the texture from the samples listed in NOT fake or added/recreated in post

[FelixTheCat]

No I am not talking about that...
I'll find the tutorial and post it.
It is you take a sample patch of "texture" then clone it and add it like Noise with HighPass. Has NOTHING to do with sharpening.
I find it and post it here. It is a Very cool way of adding texture. I never got around to doing it myself but it is great for exactly what the poster wanted and was looking for.
Felix

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by FelixTheCat

No I am not talking about that...
I'll find the tutorial and post it.
It is you take a sample patch of "texture" then clone it and add it like Noise with HighPass. Has NOTHING to do with sharpening.
I find it and post it here. It is a Very cool way of adding texture. I never got around to doing it myself but it is great for exactly what the poster wanted and was looking for.
Felix

I know what u are talking about - that's why I said: that's NOT how THESE images were done.

There's no repeated patterns in the face, the texture flows in all the right directions- no texture sampling done here for most of the image

[0lBaldy]

After pouring through the pores this is what I came up with... have fun!!

David Nagel's Photoshop Brushes Series 32
"20 custom brushes designed to produce highly detailed human and animal surface textures. These include scales, bumpy surfaces, wrinkled surfaces and rough surfaces that can be used to simulate a wide variety of textures."

David Nagel's Photoshop Brushes, Series 20
"20 brushes for generating a variety of skin textures--from somewhat smooth skin to freckles, pock marks and blemishes."

David Nagel's Photoshop Brushes Series 27
"20 individual brushes, each with unique nibs, for creating skin textures. Some are meant to be used singly, others in combination to produce greater detail--such as cellular patterns, lines, blemishes and the like. Each includes its own set of full dynamics, which can be modified to suit your own needs."

Skin Texture Photoshop Brushes
(Also Download Other Skin Texture Photoshop Brushes on this page
Download these packs individually:
Skin Textures/Cosmetics v2
Skin Textures/Pores/Hair Stubble v3)

Professional Skin Texture Sharpening
(good read)

That Soft Dior Look for Portraits
(includes a sample of a Skin Pore Texture Map (highpass))

Find a model with GREAT skin and shoot some skin shots using hard side lighting to really show off the pores and some soft lighting but make sure they are extremely sharp photos.. then make some skin pore texture masks and/or skin pore texture patterns and put them on their own different layers and change the modes or you might even use them as displacement maps

[FelixTheCat]

Thanks Ol baldy... Now Godmother can polish up her skills as well.
Was goingto take me while to dig it up.
The best way is to get it from the original image.
Never seen or tried the brushes.
You learn something new every day here.
Felix

[skydog]

I was under the understanding that you couldn't post someone else's picture unless you obtained their approval regardless if you give them credit or not...am I wrong?

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by FelixTheCat

Thanks Ol baldy... Now Godmother can polish up her skills as well.
Was goingto take me while to dig it up.
The best way is to get it from the original image.
Never seen or tried the brushes.
You learn something new every day here.
Felix

cool !
Now show me how to get something like the samples posted with those techniques - lol

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by skydog

I was under the understanding that you couldn't post someone else's picture unless you obtained their approval regardless if you give them credit or not...am I wrong?

That's the way I read it also... but a link to their site instead of the picture seems to be OK.

Originally Posted by Godmother

cool !
Now show me how to get something like the samples posted with those techniques - lol

Ain't gonna happen!! They seem to be sooooo insistent, now they have the tools.... lets see if they show us some WIPs

[FelixTheCat]

How so you post images that big here..?
Do you have to send them to a link? The server here ost are way to tiny.
Felix

PS> Does anybody know how to make the smudge tool mae long sweeps. I have tried all the setting s in the tool presets but I can never get it to mak long strokes on High res images.

Even at 100 pressure on my wacom tablet.
Did not want to start a new thread for some simple question.
Thnaks for any help.
Felix

[skydog]

Yes..that is the way I see it...a link is okay, but making a copy and posting to another site is not acceptable and I believe illegal, but probably difficult to do anything about.

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by FelixTheCat

How so you post images that big here..?
Do you have to send them to a link? The server here ost are way to tiny.
Felix

If you use Photoshop you can post fairly large pictures which are under 100k using the save for web function in Photoshop as described here:
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Or you can become a Patron and double the posting size to under 200K.. plus other benefits

[Godmother]

Originally Posted by 0lBaldy

Ain't gonna happen!! They seem to be sooooo insistent, now they have the tools.... lets see if they show us some WIPs

I like u! I miss Ant - what ever happened to him?

xx

[Markzebra]

The second of those two images is good, and sensitively done. In my opinion the first is overdone and a bit 'cardboard' looking. Not sure if its just oversharpening, thats the problem.

As for how to get there, PhiladelphiaPro, I think you may be better listening to Natalia and Nienna, that to any of the links that you've been given, although probably with a good heart, in post 15. Because if you waste your time thinking that any of those techniques are your going to produce that result, then you will get frustrated and probably be forced to give up.

[0lBaldy]

Originally Posted by Markzebra

The second of those two images is good, and sensitively done. In my opinion the first is overdone and a bit 'cardboard' looking. Not sure if its just oversharpening, thats the problem.

As for how to get there, PhiladelphiaPro, I think you may be better listening to Natalia and Nienna, that to any of the links that you've been given, although probably with a good heart, in post 15. Because if you waste your time thinking that any of those techniques are your going to produce that result, then you will get frustrated and probably be forced to give up.

Nope ... not a good heart... just being facetious and giving/or telling them the answers they seemed to want to hear...

Originally Posted by PhiladelphiaPro

Hi,
the question at hand is pretty simple but I can never seem to find a direct answer. It's clear that this person skin was not this pourous or perfect because I see what seems to be the exact same texture (which I'm looking to achieve), on a ton of retouched work. Does anyone know how I can achieve the texture?
Thanks in advance.

The direct answer is , as Markzebra pointed out... Over-sharpen for the first one.. maybe High Pass?..

The second one... get a great MUI and a model with smooth skin who is not going to blink all the time with feathers glued to her eyes

[Meaty0]

Oooo...when you plough through this thread...there's some great info hidden amongst all the other "stuff". Thanks for the info on the brushes Olbaldy. I can hardly wait to try them.

Skin texture is one of those vexing issues. There seems to be tons of different ways to achieve the same result.

EDIT: And NO, I'm not the original poster logged in under a different name.

[skauskas]

Originally Posted by Meaty0

Skin texture is one of those vexing issues. There seems to be tons of different ways to achieve the same result.

When you get 100Mb raw file to retouch, with perfect lighting and apply DB to it then you will see that there are not tons of different ways to do it - just one - and it's perfect.

[Meaty0]

Originally Posted by skauskas

When you get 100Mb raw file to retouch, with perfect lighting and apply DB to it then you will see that there are not tons of different ways to do it - just one - and it's perfect.

Oooo...wouldn't that be nice :-)

[Cyberek]

D&B - the only way to get fine result. It was discussed in first RetouPro Live Webinar, and Chris Tarantino showed how to do it correctly. Of course You Can use levels and mask, use gray in soft light, use whatever You like, but it is always D&B and You can get awesome results.
Here is a little before and after done with this technique (pic taken with Canon 50D):
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.p...zjamtw&thumb=6
http://www.mediafire.com/imageview.p...mhiixt&thumb=6
And still, after 1h D&B more can be done to make the skin looks better.

And belive me, I have spend over one year searching other, faster methods for doing a good looking skin, and I can say, that I have lost so much time for nothing. D&B does great result, only have to try it by Yourself .

[KR1156]

Originally Posted by Godmother

I like u! I miss Ant - what ever happened to him?

xx

he left because of threads like this....as did many others!