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Old 07-29-2009, 08:04 PM
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i'm just amazed with this...

http://brunodayan.com/htm/index2.htm

Seriously, how it's possible this perfection on colors, skins, backgrounds, compositions, effects, light, hair...

some photos i can't stop watching:

http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas1/fas1_05.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas1/fas1_09.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas1/fas1_19.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas1/fas1_22.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas4/fas4_07.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas4/fas4_13.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/bea/bea_17.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/bea/bea_18.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas2/fas2_07.jpg
http://brunodayan.com/pics/fas2/fas2_17.jpg

do you think there is so much retouch here?
some of them is evident in colors, but skins as well?

*all images copyright © Bruno Dayan
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Old 07-29-2009, 09:44 PM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

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do you think there is so much retouch here?
some of them is evident in colors, but skins as well?
I don't think so - I've seen that done in RAW with just lighting.

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Old 07-30-2009, 12:03 AM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

The camera captures reality...the reality of the models existing skin...problems and all...the reality of specialized and controlled creative lighting...and creative posing, wardrobe, makeup, props.

Some people that spend a LOT of time in PRE-PRODUCTION and can attend to all these elements and try to optimize each aspect as best as possible. Some have a good sense about this instinctively and are gifted...some have experience based on experimentation...or learning from others.

It is my experience that those that point and shoot...just get average images...those that are more committed to learning the craft can get very superb images with smart efforts....BUT...BUT

Even the best models, even the best photographers, even the best cameras and lights...they ALL can go only so far...after that its time for Photoshop. Retouching is an artistic skill much like the makeup artist in front of the camera...we can take care of things...to make them look better than reality.

Most images that are almost perfect...combine all of these elements as part of a total process. The model, the art director, the lighting tech, the makeup artist, the photograpger, the equipment and the retouch artist are all a part of a continuous chain. If the team is experienced, or gifted, or professional in skills...some prtetty hot stuff can be created!

If youre just starting out, or just learning, or need time and experience...then the best you can do is to learn how to observe and pick up the aspects of these elements...and try to string all the aspects together to make your own magic. You will be better if you have worked at this for 3 or 5 years...Unless youre gifted...craftsmanship takes time!!

Ray12

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Old 07-30-2009, 01:14 AM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

Yeah Ray, I agree with 99% of your comment, but the camera doesn't capture the reality. That's seems to be, but it's an illusion =D
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:22 AM
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Quantum,

Yes, I agree with you 100%...

Its all about illusion creation, illusion capturing, and illusion modifying. If you miss any one of the 3 illusion steps...then ugly reality sets in...and then your image looks like regular ugly!! LOL

Most of us dont have the patience or skill to control all 3 elements of the "creating an illusion process". It takes a dedicated, observant, scientific, artistic, creative, and craftsman like individual or team to come up with those images that we all drool over. Thats why I like photography and retouching so much...it uses the best of science and art to create stunning beauty!

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Old 07-30-2009, 01:54 AM
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Now we agree 100% Reality absolutely sucks. You know, I have a quote I made myself "Life smells like shit, and we spend every cent in perfumes" (and we're the perfumes!) lol!!!
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Old 07-30-2009, 04:21 AM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

totally true what you are talking people.
agree 100% (and the reality usually sucks, yeah!).

in my opinion the light is the key here.
he knows controlling it perfectly. the compositions are a huge part of each capture, he knows create a believable atmosphere, telling us stories.

BUT, that "bokeh" series for example, would be impossible without retouching.
beauty shots as well, and some colors are totally redefined.

so we are agree it's a really nice and controlled combination of elements.
a genius.
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Old 07-30-2009, 12:53 PM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

I think those 2 photos with the bokeh effect in form of little circles is mounted. I already see many photomontages with that bokeh effect mounted on the picture. Also, the depth of field of those 2 pictures is quite closed, no less than f/11 for sure. Impossible to make a bokeh like that with that focal aperture. IN the next pictures, the same effect is used but more pronounced and it makes obvius that they're mounted.
The lighting is quite normal but damn original. This guy really don't use the silly triangle of lights like moooooost photographers. And also, those lights are edited a lot in PS, very good postprocessing. I like his photos. Thanks for sharing these
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:08 PM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

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I think those 2 photos with the bokeh effect in form of little circles is mounted. I already see many photomontages with that bokeh effect mounted on the picture. Also, the depth of field of those 2 pictures is quite closed, no less than f/11 for sure. Impossible to make a bokeh like that with that focal aperture. IN the next pictures, the same effect is used but more pronounced and it makes obvius that they're mounted.
The lighting is quite normal but damn original. This guy really don't use the silly triangle of lights like moooooost photographers. And also, those lights are edited a lot in PS, very good postprocessing. I like his photos. Thanks for sharing these
indeed, but i never said that bokeh effect was real, but i really like how is composed and introduced.
in my opinion is not a "hey you, look my spectacular skills", he save a really good taste for the light, the girls and the scenes. and when it's beauty, it's real-real look as hell.

that triangle is not welcome here haha. as said the post-processing is very good. no so much spectacular. just smooth and brilliant.

and you're welcome Quantum.

pd: by the way do you talk spanish?
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Old 07-30-2009, 01:32 PM
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Re: i'm just amazed with this...

The Guy is incredible talented.. and that is the bottom line.
No photoshop.
His lighting is Masterly and anybody saying otherwise is belittling themselves.

He combines different color temperatures and Gels to achieve a well thought out and well balanced image.
Kudos to him for being so talented and putting out images like that.
And Thnaks to the poster because I have never seen this guy before and his portfolio is OUTSTANDING to say the least!!

Get over, It is not all photoshop.. I am sick and tired of hearing people give credit to Photoshop.
This guys images are stellar, well thought out, and he obviuosly working wih VERY talented people including the whole crew!
Photoshop is something people in here are looking to for the answer which is sad.

Snook

Or you can beleive the know it all Godmother and do it all by RAW like she has obviuosly Done.. That is Great trick she let you in on..

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